To: Havoc
Havoc:
The word vision has specific meaning. The scripture doesn't say, tell no man what you saw. Oh, yes it does:
As they were coming down from the mountain, He [the Lord] charged them not to relate what they had seen to anyone
- St. Mark 9:9 RSV
There it is, straight from Scripture.
You're wrong. Admit it or be ignored.
559 posted on
03/20/2004 4:08:34 PM PST by
B-Chan
(Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
To: B-Chan
Matthew 17:9 - Christ said it was a vision. End of discussion.
561 posted on
03/20/2004 4:13:25 PM PST by
Havoc
("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
To: B-Chan
3705 // orama // horama // hor'-am-ah //
from 3708 ; TDNT - 5:371,706; n n
AV - vision 11, sight 1; 12
1) that which is seen, spectacle
2) a sight divinely granted in an ecstasy or in a sleep, a vision
563 posted on
03/20/2004 4:15:16 PM PST by
Havoc
("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
To: B-Chan
This is the word from mark 9:9
1492 // eidw // eido // i'-do // or
// oida // oida // oy'-da //
a root word; TDNT - 5:116, 673; v
AV - know 281, cannot tell + 3756 8, know how 7, wist 6, misc 19,
see 314, behold 17, look 6, perceive 5, vr see 3, vr know 1; 667
1) to see
1a) to perceive with the eyes
1b) to perceive by any of the senses
1c) to perceive, notice, discern, discover
1d) to see
1d1) i.e. to turn the eyes, the mind, the attention to anything
1d2) to pay attention, observe
1d3) to see about something
1d31) i.e. to ascertain what must be done about it
1d4) to inspect, examine
1d5) to look at, behold
1e) to experience any state or condition
1f) to see i.e. have an interview with, to visit
2) to know
2a) to know of anything
2b) to know, i.e. get knowledge of, understand, perceive
2b1) of any fact
2b2) the force and meaning of something which has definite meaning
2b3) to know how, to be skilled in
2c) to have regard for one, cherish, pay attention to ( 1Th 5:12 )
Mark 9:9 doesn't refute Matthew, it merely generalizes it. Matthew gives more detail on this point. As I said. This is what it says - end of it. VISION.
566 posted on
03/20/2004 4:19:43 PM PST by
Havoc
("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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