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To: Salve Regina
So are you asserting that Martin Luther was not a Catholic who challenged Rome at it's door? Protestantism did not happen in vacuum my friend or in some far off provence without any Catholic help. Martin Luther was most assuredly a Catholic who hoped to reform his Church for the abuses and misunderstandings he noted in it. It was not his intent orginally to be some spin off, but to make the "Holy Father" accountable for some of the wrongs. Had the Pope of that time merely affirmed the Gospel, perhaps the schism would never have happened. Wonder if you have any indignation towards that Pope of that time who contributed to this schism, the same one who was guilty of selling indulgences which we know now you reject as a Catholic today?
439 posted on 03/20/2004 5:51:21 AM PST by cupcakes
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To: cupcakes
"contributed to this schism, the same one who was guilty of selling indulgences which we know now you reject as a Catholic today?"

the Council of Trent was the Reformation of such. Luther indeed went into schism.

445 posted on 03/20/2004 8:36:20 AM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: cupcakes
Wonder if you have any indignation towards that Pope of that time who contributed to this schism, the same one who was guilty of selling indulgences which we know now you reject as a Catholic today?

Let's straighten out this error that seems to persist.

Indulgences have NEVER been sold. Never. It has never been the teaching of the church that they are to be, either. No bishop has ever said that. The whole confussion came when a single priest, who was a Dominican, was giving a homily in a part of what is now Germany where a new Cathedral was being financed. He told the congregation that their ancestors in purgatory would be helped by their contributions. Somehow it was construed that the church validated the selling of indulgences, which was not true. The only way souls in purgatory can be helped is with prayer, and those cannot be sold.
452 posted on 03/20/2004 11:44:32 AM PST by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: cupcakes
Protestantism did not happen in vacuum my friend or in some far off provence without any Catholic help.

You are correct. It started about 200-300 years before Luther as people began to be seduced by the message that there was an easier life out there than the church taught. Luther just put a name and face on a trend that had been building steam for a long time.
453 posted on 03/20/2004 11:47:07 AM PST by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: cupcakes
Martin Luther was most assuredly a Catholic who hoped to reform his Church for the abuses and misunderstandings he noted in it.
Maybe, but he DID rend it asunder.

Wonder if you have any indignation towards that Pope of that time who contributed to this schism, the same one who was guilty of selling indulgences which we know now you reject as a Catholic today

Yes I do, along with Pope Alexander VI, the Borgia Pope. But, the current church has reformed itself, so why is the schism, the rift in God's church still rent wide open? It's lead to abominations like the ECUSA and Methodist's current teachings on gayys. I would like to welcome back the Lutherans and the many Christian Episcopalians (still left in that place) to rejoin in communion with the Mother Church.
760 posted on 03/22/2004 3:17:06 AM PST by Cronos (W2K4!)
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