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To: nickcarraway
"More importantly why did Paul ask others to pray for him? (Rom. 15:30–32, Eph. 6:18–20, Col. 4:3, 1 Thess. 5:25, 2 Thess. 3:1) Why would Paul ask others to pray for him? Paul clearly believes it is not a sin to pray for others, or to ask for other to pray for you. Why would it be wrong to ask anyone connected to you in the Body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12: esp.27;Ephesians 4:esp.12) to pray for you?"

Intercessory Prayer is great! Praying for others is great!
The point is you don't pray for "saints" who are no longer here and you don't ask such "saints" i.e. Mary to pray for you now.

I would love to ask the Pope or Billy Graham to pray for me. But if they died --- I would not!
344 posted on 03/19/2004 6:01:39 PM PST by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: TRY ONE
I would love to ask the Pope or Billy Graham to pray for me. But if they died --- I would not!

That's your choice, but nowhere in the Bible does it say that the deceased can't pray to God. In fact, in Revelations, it says the opposite. And Paul often talks about how all believers are connected in the Body of Christ.(1 Corinthians 12: esp.27;Ephesians 4:esp.12)

347 posted on 03/19/2004 6:09:04 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: TRY ONE
Just wanted to explain the Catholic HAIL MARY... It's a 2 part prayer...the first part..are the words of the angel Gabriel when he announced to Mary that she was to be the mother of JESUS......hmmmm Bible recitation...seems ok to me..

The second half is a petition to MARY (Blessed among ALL women)..to pray for us sinners NOW and at the hour of our death hmmm I can't think of a better saint to pray for me at my death..especially if I'm not in any condition to pray...(for example) maybe hitting a tree at 40 miles per hour...I will be stone dead in 7/10 of a second! Not much time to pray I suspect.

Another problem with and I'm sure our Lord loves you just as much as he does any Catholic or ANY Human for that matter... Everything you believe seems to be based on TIME...D you realize time doesn't exist in eternity...? hmmm think about that.. and when Jesus dies on the cross..IN ETERNITY which is where GOD is right now..isn't He?...

God is seeing His SON die... RIGHT NOW! ..remember HE sees the beginning from the end and the end from the beginning... so...as HIS SON dies for our sins, GOD sees us..(Humanity) all die at the exact same time... all he sees is JESUS dying for our sins..

Guess what..GOD also sees ALL of HUMANITY rising at the exact same time... hmmm quite profound..but also quite CATHOLIC because people who die before us are prayed for because we...IN GOD"S "TIME" are all dying together... Unless you think HE is looking at HIS Rolex

BTW are all the humans who were born before JESUS in hell? Little unfair..unless you have that answer too....

And... when Jesus was praying and taught us how to pray, was the prayer he was praying for only the people living at that time? or for all Humanity...hmmm I guess praying for the "dead" and the Dead who have, "IN THE PAST" prayed for us ...like my deceased grandmother who prayed constantly for me... meant those prayers are all used up...is that right? hmmm you seem to think you know the mind of GOD.. I'm sorry to have to tell you...you haven't a vapor of the capacity to know anything divine. Accept it.... accept the faith of all Christians and judge not lest...well you know the rest...

368 posted on 03/19/2004 6:28:44 PM PST by Bob Eimiller (Kennedy..Kerry..Leahy...Pelosi..Kucinich.."Catholics" who Promote Partial Birth Abortion.)
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To: Havoc
Just wanted to explain the Catholic HAIL MARY... It's a 2 part prayer...the first part..are the words of the angel Gabriel when he announced to Mary that she was to be the mother of JESUS......hmmmm Bible recitation...seems ok to me..

The second half is a petition to MARY (Blessed among ALL women)..to pray for us sinners NOW and at the hour of our death hmmm I can't think of a better saint to pray for me at my death..especially if I'm not in any condition to pray...(for example) maybe hitting a tree at 40 miles per hour...I will be stone dead in 7/10 of a second! Not much time to pray I suspect.

Another problem with and I'm sure our Lord loves you just as much as he does any Catholic or ANY Human for that matter... Everything you believe seems to be based on TIME...D you realize time doesn't exist in eternity...? hmmm think about that.. and when Jesus dies on the cross..IN ETERNITY which is where GOD is right now..isn't He?...

God is seeing His SON die... RIGHT NOW! ..remember HE sees the beginning from the end and the end from the beginning... so...as HIS SON dies for our sins, GOD sees us..(Humanity) all die at the exact same time... all he sees is JESUS dying for our sins..

Guess what..GOD also sees ALL of HUMANITY rising at the exact same time... hmmm quite profound..but also quite CATHOLIC because people who die before us are prayed for because we...IN GOD"S "TIME" are all dying together... Unless you think HE is looking at HIS Rolex

BTW are all the humans who were born before JESUS in hell? Little unfair..unless you have that answer too....

And... when Jesus was praying and taught us how to pray, was the prayer he was praying for only the people living at that time? or for all Humanity...hmmm I guess praying for the "dead" and the Dead who have, "IN THE PAST" prayed for us ...like my deceased grandmother who prayed constantly for me... meant those prayers are all used up...is that right? hmmm you seem to think you know the mind of GOD.. I'm sorry to have to tell you...you haven't a vapor of the capacity to know anything divine. Accept it.... accept the faith of all Christians and judge not lest...well you know the rest...

370 posted on 03/19/2004 6:31:04 PM PST by Bob Eimiller (Kennedy..Kerry..Leahy...Pelosi..Kucinich.."Catholics" who Promote Partial Birth Abortion.)
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