[Havoc]

Still waiting for that link..

There is no "link" that I'm aware of. I told you earlier that it is excerpted from a debate. If it was web posted, I'd be happy to provide one. The debators for 2.5 hours were Gerald Matatics and Dave Hunt. The tape may be available on the web; but, I haven't found a transcript web posted or I'd have it.

[presidio9]

Whomever delibrately changed that prayer felt the need to be dishonest to make his point. Doesn't that tell you something?