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To: Havoc; Cronos; Admin Moderator
"To you mother of the human family and of nations we confidently entrust the whole of humanity with it's hopes and fears. Do not let it lack the light of true wisdom. Guide it's steps in the ways of peace. Enable all to meet Christ. Sustain us oh virgin mary on our journey of faith and obtain for us the grace of eternal salvation" - Pope John Paul II - "Prayer for the Marian year"

It really disgusts me that you would delibrately misquote the Pope to make your pathetic anti-Catholicism work. I had know idea that your obsession was this pronounced. The actual prayer actually goes like this:

Enable all to meet Christ, the Way and the Truth and the Life. Sustain us, O Virgin Mary, on our journey of faith and obtain for us the grace of eternal salvation. O clement, O loving, O sweet Mother of God and our Mother, Mary!

You left the bolded part out because it destroys the point you were trying to make. That part of the prayer is the Pope's appeal to the Blessed Mother to help us know Christ better. As you may or may not know. The part you omitted is, of course, a direct referrence to John 14:6

"Jesus answered, 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.'"

I am all to happy to expose you for the cheap charlatan that you are. You tellingly did not provide a link. The Pope's prayer, in its entirety, is here. You will be a much healthier person when you give up your irrational crusade against the RCC and focus on the things that are truely important.

199 posted on 03/19/2004 2:59:41 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9
I did no such thing. This is taken word for word from a debate in which it was quoted and referenced. I changed nothing. And it is irrelevant to the conversation. The bolded part changes nothing. It is not Christ whome the Pope is seeking salvation from in that prayer, it is Mary he turns to for it. I quote again: " Sustain us, oh virgin Mary, on our journey of faith and obtain for us the grace of eternal salvation" Now, I may have quoted what I heard directly, and that quote may have left out what you filled in. It does not in ANY way change what is being said. The pope paid lipservice to Christ in HIS office as redeemer, then turned right around and asked Mary for his salvation. Not Christ, Mary. Exactly what I stated earlier that he said and you denied it.
210 posted on 03/19/2004 3:13:25 PM PST by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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