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If I carve a loaf of bread and a cup of wine out of wood and offer them, I'm not offering bread and wine. You claim that the Bread and wine are turned into Christ; but, just retain the appearance of bread and wine. So you aren't offering bread and wine. Christ has already been sacrificed, and Hebrews tells us that sacrifice cannot be repeated. So your own philosophy and the scripture are at odds with you as Catholics.

Hebrews 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, [which are] the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

Hebrews 9:25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;

Hebrews 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Hebrews 9:23 and 24 do indeed state he's in heaven - you excluded 25-28 which you knew was there is there and will not be moved - that he entered once and it was over with.
Again, making the scripture a lie for sake of your philosophy.

Havoc writes:

Again, making the scripture a lie for sake of your philosophy.

This appears to be an attempt to use the fallacy argumentum ad baculum or "appeal to force". I'll note that our friend was corrected on the erroneous assumption that a theory is an opinion elsewhere on this great site. Please help to have a good debate for all.

Havoc writes:

If I carve a loaf of bread and a cup of wine out of wood and offer them, I'm not offering bread and wine. You claim that the Bread and wine are turned into Christ; but, just retain the appearance of bread and wine. So you aren't offering bread and wine. Christ has already been sacrificed, and Hebrews tells us that sacrifice cannot be repeated. So your own philosophy and the scripture are at odds with you as Catholics.

I disagree with your translation of Scripture and your analogy. It's you doing the carving. You're a man. Christ is King. Hebrews tells us that the death of Christ cannot be repeated - it does not say sacrifice. Indeed, as pointed out before, Hebrews in the later chapters specifically mentions Christ's sacrifices. Christ's priesthood did not start with his suffering and death, it started with His incarnation:

"1:5 For to which of the angels hath he said at any time: Thou art my Son, to-day have I begotten thee? And again: I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

"1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world, he saith: And let all the angels of God adore him."

Hebrews 1:5-6 (DR)

and continues in Heaven after his Resurrection and ascension:

"9:24 For Jesus is not entered into the Holies made with hands, the patterns of the true: but into Heaven itself, that he may appear now in the presence of God for us."

Hebrews 9:24 (DR).

He died once. He continues in His office as High Priest., as indicated in Hebrews 8:2 and Hebrews 9:24, Christ is he who "...serves in the sanctuary..." and "now appears for us in God's presence". Indeed, Christ does more than take his seat at the right hand of God, he:

"5:1 For every high priest taken from among men is appointed on behalf of men in things pertaining to God, in order to offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins;"

Hebrews 5:1 (DR)

This is referring to Christ. He's offering sacrifices. There is a huge difference between re-representation, and re-sacrifice. Lastly, Hebrews makes a clear distinction, by using very different words in Hebrews 9:28 - "He was offerred (prosphero) and Hebrews 9:23 - "...with better sacrifices (thusia)than these. He died once. He is re-represented sacramentally - and that is per His word.

A closing note - there was no intention to purposefully exclude Hebrews 9:25-28. I'm not sure how you can come to that conclusion - but whatever I guess.