[Fury]

Havoc writes:

Again, making the scripture a lie for sake of your philosophy.

This appears to be an attempt to use the fallacy argumentum ad baculum or "appeal to force". I'll note that our friend was corrected on the erroneous assumption that a theory is an opinion elsewhere on this great site. Please help to have a good debate for all.

[wolfman]

Grace is God’s unmerited favor, but it’s not His unmerited favor that just helps us to be better people or adds to what we have already done. Grace is entirely God’s work when it comes to salvation. When we come to the table, we bring nothing except our great need. Grace means I don’t come just to be better, I come for a miracle. Grace means I don’t come simply because I think that I can do with a little bit of help. I need to be rescued. And that’s why grace is so incredibly amazing. How can we even begin to pay for the love of God and the grace of God where Jesus would become a sacrifice for us and become our sin-bearer? That’s why throughout all of eternity we’re going to be debtors to God, and that’s why I think Heaven is going to be so filled with praises is that we are going to see more beautifully than we can even imagine here on earth the fact that we were saved by God’s grace and entirely by God’s grace.