To: presidio9
Prayer for the Dead Is this what you are referring to?
That is weak, really weak. An obvious defense after the fact, an excuse for something that men do for reasons of their own rather than a commandment of God.
And not a single solid scriptural reference in the whole thing. Your statement was unequivocal. Surely you can do better than that.
To: hopespringseternal
That is weak, really weak. An obvious defense after the fact, an excuse for something that men do for reasons of their own rather than a commandment of God. And not a single solid scriptural reference in the whole thing. Your statement was unequivocal. Surely you can do better than that.
Do you pray for the dead? If not, I can't understand why we are having this conversation. If so, you need to continue your research. Good luck!
135 posted on
03/19/2004 12:50:31 PM PST by
presidio9
(Islam is as Islam does)
To: hopespringseternal
And not a single solid scriptural reference in the whole thing. Your statement was unequivocal. Surely you can do better than that.
One does not get much more clear than II Maccabees 12, 44-45:
For if he had not hoped that they that were slain should have risen again, it had been superfluous and vain to pray for the dead. And also in that he perceived that there was great favour laid up for those that died godly, it was an holy and good thought. Whereupon he made a reconciliation for the dead, that they might be delivered from sin.
F.W.I.W. that translation is that Authorised Version (also called the King James Version).
Of course, that is from one of the books which although held by ALL in the first 1500 years of the Church to be part of the Bible, was thrown out by Martin Luther. Nevermind that when S. Paul wrote "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" (II Timothy 3, 16) he had in mind the Septuagint (which contains Maccabees), Martin Luther did not like it at all, so out it goes.
144 posted on
03/19/2004 1:22:16 PM PST by
tjwmason
(A voice from Merry England.)
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