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To: Havoc
I guess it's the default Catholic position to slander and look last. But I'm told the quotation I gave came from this debate and records the comment exactly as I relayed it. So when you get your pride out of your behind, and work up the integrity, I'll be waiting here for the apology I'm sure I'll never see. In the meantime, I'll get the software and download it myself to confirm for myself. This outta be good. ROFL.

You still don't get it. I don't think you screwed up the Dave Hunt quote. I think he said exactly what you said he said. I also think he is probably a pretty bright guy. I don't think he made a mistake. I think he delibrately left the line out of the prayer to make it sound like the Pope was praying to Mary to grant him salvation. I think Hunt's axe is proving that Catholicism is blaspehmous. Unfortunatly, he can't find any real evidence for his bizarre opinions. So he has dishonestly chosen to manufacture that evidence and plant it on the Pope. This is a very scummy thing to do.

1,087 posted on 03/22/2004 3:07:27 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9; Cronos; All
You still don't get it. I don't think you screwed up the Dave Hunt quote.

Ah, so then what was the "thus saith havoc" stuff then. Did I just imagine being beat up endlessly and accused of making it up just to slander you guys and all that. No, I didn't. And you guys don't display an ounce of integrity now. Instead you act like nothing happened and turn your slanders to Hunt. I'm listening to the passage now. And from my perspective it's as likely he lost his place because he was commenting as he reads it. And I agree, what you're doing is a scummy thing to do.. impugning someone's integrity without bothering to give it a hearing. Oh, don't worry, I'm used to it. I don't need your apology, you've displayed quite well what I've been trying to get across in this regard better than I could have. It isn't about the truth - it's about silencing the opposition by destroying them - however it must be done. Need a hammer and nails? Trees are a dime a dozen.

1,094 posted on 03/22/2004 3:41:17 PM PST by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: presidio9
You still don't get it. I don't think you screwed up the Dave Hunt quote. I think he said exactly what you said he said. I also think he is probably a pretty bright guy. I don't think he made a mistake. I think he delibrately left the line out of the prayer to make it sound like the Pope was praying to Mary to grant him salvation. I think Hunt's axe is proving that Catholicism is blaspehmous. Unfortunatly, he can't find any real evidence for his bizarre opinions. So he has dishonestly chosen to manufacture that evidence and plant it on the Pope. This is a very scummy thing to do.

Good point. You would think that to make a good argument, that Mr. Hunt would provide the document, or the snippet of the words said to have been spoken by the Pope.

Instead, there seems to be the position posited by Havoc that because Mr. Hunt says this is what the Pope said, then the Pope must have said it.

1,216 posted on 03/23/2004 5:18:58 AM PST by Fury
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