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To: Petronski
No, his beef is with scripture itself. There is nothing there that I quoted which is subject to interpretation. Interpretation is what the translators did. I just quoted it. I can read, and contrary to Catholic opinion, the rest of these people can too. It is you guys who are not allowed to read and use your brains. The minute you have a thought contrary to the teaching of your church, you stand on the verge of being condenmed to Hell by them - excommunicant. Or are we not supposed to make that known here. Check brain at door.. It isn't an interpretation of mine you have a problem with. The problem is you aren't allowed to speculate as to whether Rome is right or not. That only leaves you with attacking everyone else on the planet who thinks wrongly that they can read. I'm sorry, but that's a slander that none of us non-catholics is going to make cause it isn't true. But it is the standard tactic of cults.
1,060 posted on 03/22/2004 2:17:26 PM PST by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: Havoc
As Hudson, from the movie aliens could be paraphrased; "Maybe you haven't been keeping up on current events, pal, but the Vatican has been getting its a$$ kicked by dissenters for a long time, and hasn't excommunicated ANYBODY lately!"

So there is the fly in your ointment, or the proof of your lie, whichever way you might want to spin it, Lord Havoc.
1,067 posted on 03/22/2004 2:28:57 PM PST by broadsword ("The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. " Edmund Burke)
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To: Havoc
If there were no interpretation on your part, your entire post would have consisted of a quotation from scripture. Alas, that was not the case. Instead, you posted a few lines from scripture, and then larded them down with gallons of your own self-important and self-serving interpretation.
1,068 posted on 03/22/2004 2:29:26 PM PST by Petronski (Kerry knew...and did nothing. THAT....is weakness.)
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To: Havoc
It is you guys who are not allowed to read and use your brains.

Your shabbiest lie yet.

1,069 posted on 03/22/2004 2:33:35 PM PST by Petronski (Kerry knew...and did nothing. THAT....is weakness.)
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To: Havoc; Petronski
It is you guys who are not allowed to read and use your brains.

That's another piece of propaganda. Catholics are not allowed to read the Bible? Nothing of that sort. We are free to read and to question.
The minute you have a thought contrary to the teaching of your church, you stand on the verge of being condenmed to Hell by them - excommunicant.

Not really, where do you get your material from? It's wrong. Stop hauling around medieval propaganda.
The problem is you aren't allowed to speculate as to whether Rome is right or not.

You mean we aren't allowed to question the capital of Italy? Silvio Berlosconi is the head of the Italian govt in Rome, so all Catholics follow Silvio????

When the Pope makes a proclamation, it is backed up by hours of debate amongst the college of Cardinals and many times with the help of learned members of the laity. He doesn't go about asking folks who don't know their scriptures very well for all of their half-formed opinion.

Half knowledge is dangerous. You must know the entire structure before you can comment on one column
1,195 posted on 03/23/2004 12:54:38 AM PST by Cronos (W2K4!)
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