Tennessee county beats hasty retreat from call to ban homosexuals

Associated Press ^ | March 18, 2004 | BILL POOVEY

[tomball]

The county that was the site of the Scopes "Monkey Trial" over the teaching of evolution Thursday reversed its call to ban homosexuals.

Rhea County commissioners took about three minutes to retreat from a request to amend state law so the county can charge homosexuals with crimes against nature. The Tuesday measure passed 8-0.

[timm22]

I'm going to call it a night. I thank you for the discussion, and hope that we might pick it up again later.

[jwalsh07]

"The fundamental error of socialism is anthropological in nature. Socialism considers the individual person simply as an element, a molecule within the social organism, so that the good of the individual is completely subordinated to the functioning of the socio-economic mechanism. Socialism likewise maintains that the good of the individual can be realized without reference to his free choice, to the unique and exclusive responsibility which he exercises in the face of good or evil. Man is reduced to a series of social relationships, and the concept of the person as the autonomous subject of moral decisions disappears." Pope John Paul II

[AntiGuv]

Here's a suggestion. Pick up your closest available Bible and start reading Leviticus or Deuteronomy. Make a point of highlighting every verse that is inconsistent with Catholic doctrine (or whatever denomination you wish to evaluate). Enjoy!

[jwalsh07]

LOL, no I don't think so. Do you're own work, this isn't a village.

[AntiGuv]

Anthropology is irrelevant to textual Christianity. I am aware of Pope John Paul II's defense of using universalistic natural law ethics in theological guidance. More power to him; it's a step in the right direction.

I would note however that in his 1993 Encyclical Veritatis Splendor he rejects the insights of cultural anthropology. There seems to be a certain instability in John Paul's doctrinal postulates.

[AntiGuv]

Many Christians adhere to either some kind of nationalistic or some kind of socialistic ideology. They are not in practice incompatible.

Why would I care if Hitler is associated with any of the above? He obviously is.

[RightOnline]

You may consider it an overreaction...........but in light of what has been happening in this country due to the concerted efforts of the activist homosexual community, activist courts, ultra-liberal media fawning, etc.......it is perfectly understandable. There ARE large portions of this country and a very, very large percentage of this country that have HAD it with this garbage and are finally standing up and shouting "ENOUGH ALREADY!!!".

I submit that you may be looking down your nose at the wrong people here.

[Torie]

John, Antiguv typically has interior lines of defense. He is armed and dangerous. That does not make him right per se, but it does make him an excellent vehicle for honing ones own rhetorical skills, and being stimulated to look further into the matters at hand. Kudos to antiguv when he gets serious, rather than just playing around, which of course is what I largely did on this thread. I admit it.

[jwalsh07]

I know antiguv. Smart guy. But I like to test my blue collar skills against the smart ones. :-}

[jwalsh07]

"Totalitarianism arises out of a denial of truth in the objective sense. If there is no transcendent truth, in obedience to which man achieves his full identity, then there is no sure principle for guaranteeing just relations between people. Their self- interest as a class, group or nation would inevitably set them in opposition to one another. If one does not acknowledge transcendent truth, then the force of power takes over, and each person tends to make full use of the means at his disposal in order to impose his own interests or his own opinion, with no regard for the rights of others . . . Thus, the root of modern totalitarianism is to be found in the denial of the transcendent dignity of the human person who, as the visible image of the invisible God, is therefore by his very nature the subject of rights which no one may violate no individual, group, class, nation or State. Not even the majority of a social body may violate these rights, by going against the minority, by isolating, oppressing, or exploiting it, or by attempting to annihilate it".[155]

Sounds positively Jeffersonian to me.

[Torie]

But is it from Veritatis Splendor, that is the question, to get the Cheneyian knife in, through the antiguv armour.

I am tempted to have Veritatis Splendor as the name of a vanity thread I host, if I ever get around to doing it. I like it. What is more splendid than the splendid truth, particularly if it is all mine?

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

Hitler was not a Catholic, much less a Christian of any sort. He despised Christianity as weakness. Hitler was a pagan occultist who invoked the Norse pantheon, particularly before his speeches to crowds. The Nazi party was the political front for the occult Thule party. Many of Hilter's high ranking officers were also left path magicians.

[AntiGuv]

That is indeed the 98th splendid truth.. I was uncertain how it was relevant to the discussion at hand; perhaps John could get us all on the same page?

BTW, one can usually tell how serious I am from the frequency of my semicolons. ;^)

Thanks for giving me a good chuckle!

PS. Take a look at the 47th and 48th splendid truths.

[Sodbuster]

The twelve year old got it right. Social education (as opposed to a technical education) pollutes the mind.

[AntiGuv]

Hitler said a lot of things in the 40's that probably were not true. Do you really think his guiding ideology was Catholicism?

I missed this earlier. The answer is: no, I do not think that. I was merely correcting the falsehood that he was not Catholic. One need not behave as a Catholic 'should' or be guided by Catholicism to consider oneself Catholic.

[No Dems 2004]

Too bad they got cold feet. Contrary to what the USSC says, there's nothing unconstitutional about banning gays.

[ninenot]

As usual, you've managed to take the wrong side.

Immoral activity should be criminal activity. Period.

[ninenot]

Most people understand that no one can "legislate morality." But most people don't understand what that phrase actually means.

The phrase refers to an attempt to legally force individuals to to what is good--an impossibility.

Thus, legislation remains 'negative'--that is, it can only prohibit those actions which are bad.

[TradicalRC]

Christians have had to exist under several forms of government, mostly monarchy. One could just as easily say that Christianity and monarchy are not incompatible or Christianity and anarchy for that matter.

[TradicalRC]

One need not behave as a Catholic 'should' or be guided by Catholicism to consider oneself Catholic.

Do you work for John Kerry?