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Tennessee county beats hasty retreat from call to ban homosexuals
Associated Press ^ | March 18, 2004 | BILL POOVEY

Posted on 03/18/2004 6:43:15 PM PST by tomball

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:46:07 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: narses
Like the laws of this country a short 50 years ago that almost universally criminalized sodomy, adultery and homosexuality? Are you truly comparing America of 1954 to the TALIBAN?

I certainly disagree with those laws, but I do not think they were part of a comprehensive system of criminalizing mortal sins, like the system you suggest. I doubt many people in 1954 would have considered allowing the legislature to prohibit any activity which was found to be a mortal sin ("mortal sin" to be defined by the legislature) and which was harmful to society (also to be decided by the legislature). If they did, I suspect that the Court system at some level would have prevented it.

If I am wrong, and America in 1954 did follow your system, then I would compare them to the Taliban.

161 posted on 03/18/2004 10:04:44 PM PST by timm22
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To: AntiGuv; GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; ...
"I have no problem with Catholicism beyond the fact that it is an fantasy."

And you claim to be NOT 'anti-Catholic! What basis for your claim of 'fantasy' resides behind your attack?
162 posted on 03/18/2004 10:05:42 PM PST by narses (If you want OFF or ON my Catholic Ping list, please email me. +)
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To: narses
I did not specify Catholicism. I specified Christianity. A lot of Popes should also consult their Testaments more carefully.
163 posted on 03/18/2004 10:06:05 PM PST by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: narses
You're being ridiculous again. Reread what I wrote; it's not unclear.
164 posted on 03/18/2004 10:07:01 PM PST by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: TradicalRC
I did not specify Communism. There was a reason for that.
165 posted on 03/18/2004 10:07:44 PM PST by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: timm22; GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; ...
"If I am wrong, and America in 1954 did follow your system, then I would compare them to the Taliban."

Wow. You really need to study both general hsitory and legal history. You ARE claiming that America and the Taliban have the same structure with your posts. That is amazing.
166 posted on 03/18/2004 10:07:58 PM PST by narses (If you want OFF or ON my Catholic Ping list, please email me. +)
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To: Torie
Yawn.
167 posted on 03/18/2004 10:08:16 PM PST by narses (If you want OFF or ON my Catholic Ping list, please email me. +)
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To: narses
God bless the great state of Tennessee!
168 posted on 03/18/2004 10:08:46 PM PST by wardaddy (A man better believe in something or he'll fall for anything.)
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To: AntiGuv
I can understand not wanting to claim him. He was what he was and that was what he claimed to be. Such is life.

Hitler rose to power, not on the Catholic Democratic ticket but with the Nationalist-Socialist party. Nationalism and Socialism are both Secular creeds and That is what he claimed. I can understand if you want to disassociate yourself from him, though.

169 posted on 03/18/2004 10:09:31 PM PST by TradicalRC (Fides quaerens intellectum.)
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To: Torie
...the Enlightenment made it all tolerable, this thread notwithstanding.

;^)

170 posted on 03/18/2004 10:09:31 PM PST by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: AntiGuv; GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; ...
You wrote: "I have no problem with Catholicism beyond the fact that it is an fantasy."

Where did you dig up proof that Catholicism is a 'FANTASY'?

171 posted on 03/18/2004 10:09:43 PM PST by narses (If you want OFF or ON my Catholic Ping list, please email me. +)
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To: sinkspur
Fornication breaks up families, causes hard feelings, spreads disease and often causes pregnancy.
172 posted on 03/18/2004 10:10:17 PM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: AntiGuv
Quite to the contrary, Christianity is an intrinsically and relentlessly socialistic creed. Perhaps you should consult your Testaments more carefully?

Perhaps you should consult Pope John Paul II.

173 posted on 03/18/2004 10:10:44 PM PST by jwalsh07 (We're bringing it on John but you can't handle the truth!)
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To: wardaddy
Amen!
174 posted on 03/18/2004 10:10:45 PM PST by narses (If you want OFF or ON my Catholic Ping list, please email me. +)
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To: jwalsh07; AntiGuv
Or Leo XIII and Rerum Novarum!
175 posted on 03/18/2004 10:11:24 PM PST by narses (If you want OFF or ON my Catholic Ping list, please email me. +)
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To: The Old Hoosier
It is also often the proximate cause of violence and even murder.
176 posted on 03/18/2004 10:12:04 PM PST by narses (If you want OFF or ON my Catholic Ping list, please email me. +)
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To: narses
I don't need to dig up proof that it is a fantasy any more so than I need to dig up proof that the Tooth Fairy is a fantasy.

You are the one who need dig up proof of its veracity. Well, actually you don't unless you seek to persuade others.

I am sure you can find easier and more receptive targets for that. Perhaps you should go harrass one of them?
177 posted on 03/18/2004 10:13:45 PM PST by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: narses
Wow. You really need to study both general hsitory and legal history. You ARE claiming that America and the Taliban have the same structure with your posts. That is amazing.

On the contrary, I compared the system you propose and the Taliban. I denied that America fit the system you describe. While America has and still does to some degree "legislate morality," it does not nearly do so on the scale or as thoroughly as the system you describe.

I will admit that structurally, your system would more democratic than that of the Taliban. It's possible that the punishments given by the Taliban would be harsher than the ones in your system- though also possible they would be as harsh. What's important, though, is that they would both give the government the same power, and would both violate individual rights and the rule of law.

178 posted on 03/18/2004 10:15:37 PM PST by timm22
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To: jwalsh07
Why would I want to do a thing like that? I am indifferent to what version of Christianity one wishes to embrace. The Testaments are rather unequivocal; I'm just trying to avoid the tedious task of looking the relevant parts up...
179 posted on 03/18/2004 10:16:48 PM PST by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: AntiGuv
Why would I want to do a thing like that?

Perhaps for the same reason that one would consult a Cardiologist if one were having a heart attack rather than looking up the procedure for catheterization.

180 posted on 03/18/2004 10:19:37 PM PST by jwalsh07 (We're bringing it on John but you can't handle the truth!)
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