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Could Howard Stern Topple Bush?
NewsMax.com ^ | 3-18-04 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 03/18/2004 8:09:06 AM PST by Mich0127

Is "shock jock" Howard Stern's voice powerful enough to affect the upcoming presidential election to the extent of sending President Bush packing?

That's what the Boston Globe wants to know, explaining that the liberal talk show host the newspaper describes as a "stripper aficionado, champion of misfits everywhere, all-purpose radio provocateur," has turned his raunchy show into a Bush bashing marathon.

Writes the Globe's Matthew Gilbert, Stern has been devoting hours of his broadcast every weekday "to impassioned criticism of President Bush and support of Senator John Kerry."

Stern, he writes has been "Railing tirelessly against the president, attacking Bush's alleged yoking together of church and state, questioning the legitimacy of Bush's National Guard service, his use of images of Sept. 11 in his campaign ads, his stands on First Amendment rights, his handling of Iraq, and his stands against gay marriage and stem-cell research.

"Join me and friends of this show who are outraged," Stern said on the air last Friday. "Vote out every Republican you can find."

Moreover, Stern is also asking his listeners to send money to Kerry's campaign, calling the Massachusetts Senator "a good man" and praising both his record in Vietnam as well as his anti-Vietnamese war activities.

Stern's voice is powerful, as his ratings show. "With all the talk of liberal talk radio," Michael Harrison, the editor and publisher of Talkers magazine told the Globe. "... we're seeing emerging from the ranks of `shock jocks' one of the most potent and articulate liberal talkers we've seen in years."

Stern's recent crusade, he added, is "historic. Anytime you have somebody suddenly igniting political interest with an audience who has the kind of loyalty factor Stern has, it could turn an election."

Harrison explained that a large percentage of Stern's listeners -- some 8 1/2 million a week - were leaning in favor of Bush. "If Stern could turn several million supporters away from Bush, that has even more impact than Rush Limbaugh, who's preaching to the choir."

"On a national level, I don't know how much influence Stern could have," Chuck Todd, editor of The Hotline, a Washington-based daily briefing on politics told the Globe, adding that "we assume too little at our own peril when it comes to Stern and talk radio in general. . . . Does Bush really need to worry about him? If New York were a swing state, we definitely would take this more seriously. Is Stern's popularity as devoted outside of New York? We only know it is ratings-wise."

Stern's audience, Harrison said, is broader than most people realize. "They're not just 18-year-old, beer-drinking yahoos. They're 20- and 30- and 40-something professionals. They're mainstream American citizens who are well-educated and affluent and socially active and politically interested, though not politically active. But they're being motivated. Wouldn't that be amazing if millions of people vote who otherwise wouldn't, because of this issue?"

Adds Todd, "Some people will dismiss Stern not ... because they believe his listeners don't vote. I would argue that a swing voter is just that; they swing between not voting and voting, not between the two parties. So if he brings some nonvoters to the polls, then that's a big impact."

And, Todd pointed out, Stern has used his clout effectively in the past. Stern was briefly the 1994 New York Libertarian Party candidate in the governor's race, before withdrawing and endorsing Republican George Pataki. "One could argue that he had an effect on that New York governor's race, that he was an impact player," Todd says.

Stern's anti-Bush crusade began in earnest, the Globe reported, after the FCC crackdown on "indecency" had inspired Clear Channel - which he calls "Fear Channel" - to remove his show from six cities the week of Feb. 23.

Although Clear Channel's stations provide only a relatively small part of his audience, the action angered Stern.

Says the Globe, "his outrage has boiled to a head with news that Congress is currently considering a radical increase in the amount of FCC indecency fines (from a maximum of $27,500 to $500,000).

"It's over," Stern said on the air. "When the Senate passes that bill, it's over. The show is over. . . We can't do a radio program that's cutting edge . . . if the government keeps second-guessing everything we do."

Stern also insists that Clear Channel dropped him last month not because of indecency on his show but because of some of his Bush criticism earlier in the year. "There's a real good argument to be made that I stopped backing Bush and that's when I got kicked off Clear Channel," he told his listeners earlier this month.

"He is self-aggrandizing if he thinks he's being singled out here," Jeffrey Chester, executive director of the Center for Digital Democracy, a Washington-based advocacy organization told the Globe. "Congress is engaging in this kind of witch hunt generally. I don't think they're singling out Stern for his alleged critical comments against the Bush administration."

Chester says it is unclear whether Kerry will indeed be Stern's "savior," adding "I'm no fan of Howard Stern or Rush Limbaugh... Congress is stampeding to censor a whole range of speech."


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To: Mich0127
They're 20- and 30- and 40-something professionals. They're mainstream American citizens who are well-educated and affluent....

Some of us are also Catholic and Republican, and between the Gibson/Passion and GWB bashing I just decided to turn him off, this after having been a loyal listener for 8+ years.

I think this article is missing another perspective, in that a portion of his audience may be heading for the exits because his constant martyrdom is just plain boring. Those who are left probably weren't likely to vote W to begin with.

Stern-free and loving life!

81 posted on 03/18/2004 9:56:56 AM PST by Interloper
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To: MeekOneGOP
Thanks for the ping!
82 posted on 03/18/2004 10:01:13 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: syriacus
BTTT
83 posted on 03/18/2004 10:07:37 AM PST by P.O.E. (Enjoy every sandwich)
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To: Mich0127
Is "shock jock" Howard Stern's voice powerful enough to affect the upcoming presidential election to the extent of sending President Bush packing?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

84 posted on 03/18/2004 10:12:17 AM PST by atomicpossum (Fun pics in my profile)
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To: Mich0127
I am writing to Clear Channel in the hopes that they will state publicly that GWB did not cause their decision to dump Stern:

Lisa Dollinger
Senior Vice President
Corporate Communications
San Antonio, TX
210-822-2828
LisaDollinger@clearchannel.com

Andrew Levin
Executive Vice President
Law and Government Affairs
Washington, DC
202-289-3230
AndyLevin@clearchannel.com
85 posted on 03/18/2004 10:25:19 AM PST by Solamente
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To: Mich0127

Could Gibson's 'Passion' Have Political Fallout?

Alliance of Jews & Evangelicals could tip the election (A new swing vote)


86 posted on 03/18/2004 10:26:43 AM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Mich0127
"Could Howard Stern Topple Bush?"

No.

The idiots who would follow Stern's lead don't vote. Why? Felons, morons, masterbators, and drooling adolescents aren't known for their civic involvement and political acumen.

87 posted on 03/18/2004 10:29:23 AM PST by Richard Axtell
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To: Mich0127
Howard needs to stop whining about his freedom of speech. He still has the freedom to say whatever he wants. He's just like the majority of people now - he's not getting paid to say it.
88 posted on 03/18/2004 10:30:54 AM PST by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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To: liberallarry
"He's smart and he's influential and he's courageous."

If he's smart, he sure doesn't show it.

I'm sure he influences some people, but probably very few people that actually vote.

Courageous? No, just a loud mouth with a huge ego.

89 posted on 03/18/2004 10:34:19 AM PST by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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To: GOPgirl2000
I disagree.

No President should get a free ride just because there is a war on. Were that to be common practice, the President would simply be able to find a place for us to fight at all times. The truth is, there is always a war out there if you look hard enough.

Stern's comments about Bush are wrong, but I would never argue that anyone shouldn't be allowed to express their opinion of the President at any time.

Besides, women nationwide received the vote precisely because some women were willing to criticize Wilson in the midst of WWI. In fact, some of them were even arrested and imprisoned because of those who did not want them to express their opinions on Wilson.
90 posted on 03/18/2004 11:35:44 AM PST by sharktrager (Kerry is like that or so a crack sausage)
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To: Mich0127
It's really not even about Stern .. it's about FILTH ON THE RADIO. Stern is still free to peddle his filth on cable TV or X-radio. Nobody is stopping him.
91 posted on 03/18/2004 12:48:31 PM PST by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: raloxk
BTW Stern never supported Hillary Clinton. The whole gang supported Lazio and suported Senator AL in 1998 against Schumer.

And a lot of good that did!

92 posted on 03/18/2004 12:58:43 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: Mich0127
No. Current members of his shrinking "demographic group" could not read a ballot -- even if they cared to.....
93 posted on 03/18/2004 12:59:27 PM PST by tracer
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To: Mich0127
Where will he topple Bush? In the big cities where they vote Dem anyway?? Give me a break.
94 posted on 03/18/2004 1:01:20 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Interloper
I think this article is missing another perspective, in that a portion of his audience may be heading for the exits because his constant martyrdom is just plain boring. Those who are left probably weren't likely to vote W to begin with.

The New York Daily News TV editor, who was actually a Stern fan, wrote a column the other day about how Stern needed to get off his soapbox, and get back to entertaining. Stern flipped out on the show over the article, and the columnist ended up getting 800 letters from Stern listeners. The thing is, though, that many of the letters agreed with the columnist! Anyhow, here's the original column:

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/174076p-151617c.html

and here's the followup, with readers' opinions:

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/174211p-151766c.html

When Stern endorsed politicans before, he didn't make it his whole show. Now, he's becoming the new Al Franken, and I can't imagine his average listener is going to want to continue listening to that.

95 posted on 03/18/2004 1:14:47 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago
When Stern endorsed politicans before, he didn't make it his whole show.

I remembered something else too. Back long ago they had an incident in Cleveland(?) where someone cut a wire or something and took him off the air at a live broadcast. The incident went to court and the judge either ruled against him (HS) or didn’t punish the offender very harshly – HS had campaigned against him too (MacGinty or something) and he won re-election overwhelmingly). Ha. (Don’t know why I can remember stupid stuff like that.)

96 posted on 03/18/2004 1:25:07 PM PST by Who dat?
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To: newgeezer
"I'm guessing the b*st*rd has a lot more fans here than either of us would like to believe."

Just do a search for older Stern's Posts and you'll find out how many there are.
97 posted on 03/18/2004 2:43:09 PM PST by Revel
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To: Mich0127
Hate to admit that I listened to Howard for about 10 years, wasted my youth on that one. His show has gotten extremely boring since his divorce. I believe that if you look at the next ratings book it will show a significant decline in ratings.
98 posted on 03/18/2004 8:06:44 PM PST by weshess
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To: Mich0127
Howard Stern's trouble started when he attacked Christians calling them gullible idiots for seeing the Passion Of the Christ.

God works in strange ways and Howeird Stern's time is up!

99 posted on 03/18/2004 8:22:32 PM PST by Radioactive
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To: All
Why do we even give Stern public attention on this website? Do you really believe this guy represents the Jewish voice in America, or even any voice of decent Americans? He's nothing but a rotten, unprincipaled, uncultured, classless, living cesspool. He condemns himself on a daily basis.

Matthew 12: 36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

100 posted on 03/19/2004 8:14:19 AM PST by GigaDittos (Malaysian jew-haters for Kerry, oh what a surprise!)
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