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To: tdadams
me->Homosexuality is a contagious disease caused by mental trauma (usually molestation).

you->Sorry, John, maybe that was the case in your unfortunate experience, but that's not a scientifically supportable assertion.

read scripters database. The data overwhelmingly supports my contentions here.

The "Gay report"? What is this "Gay report"?

Jay, K., and Young, A. (1977). The Gay Report: Lesbian and gay men speak out about their sexual experiences and lifestyles. New York: Summit.

Both authors are 'gay' men. more detail can be found but I'll let you look for yourself. I can't force you to learn

You assert incorrectly that homosexuals molest more children than heterosexuals.

Read scripter's databse. Or read CDC numbers on molestations. Over 30% are same-sex molestations. yet 'homosexuals' comprise only 2-3% of the population. Looks pretty clear that 'homosexuals' molest more than non-homosexuals do (on a per capita basis)

But logically, if we outlaw homosexuality (nevermind how we could go about that!) because homosexuals molest children, then we must also outlaw heterosexuality Heterosexuals also molest children.

Molestation is illegal and should be prosecuted to the extreme whenever proven. Since the odds are far greater that someone who practices homosexual behavior will also molest homosexual behavior should be outlawed (this is not the only reason however, just one of many).

Heterosexuals on the other hand have an incidence of molestation that is in the noise comparatively. While every population will contain some aberrant individuals every person who practices homosexual behavior is aberrant. You're letting your passion overtake your logic.

Logic says that you shouldn't use an exit as an entrance. Logic states that two men (or two women) cannot reproduce and hence what they are doing is unnatural. Logic states that a person known to perform behavior which is highly concurrent with molestation cannot be trusted

119 posted on 03/19/2004 12:45:40 PM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O
Logic states that a person known to perform behavior which is highly concurrent with molestation cannot be trusted

From personal notes taken during a University of Houston distance lecture on pedophilia, the recidivism rate for pedophiles, regardless of orientation, is approximately 100%. This is true for both "preferential" and "situational" pedophiles -- the latter being the occasional opportunists, most usually mature, heterosexual, married men. These occasional offenders account for the bias in the stats toward heterosexual (90%) and male offenders. The really busy and determined peds are either gay pederasts or member of a small group of aggressive peds, the kind who join NAMBLA, to put it bluntly, and who (as it was found out recently in Houston) like to find each other and group together near schools or daycare centers.

123 posted on 03/20/2004 3:06:44 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: John O
Read scripter's databse.

You read and believe whatever supports your existing conclusion. Likewise, if you're for the war on drugs, you believe the studies published by the Office of National Drug Control Policy. If you're against it, you believe the studies published by the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws.

Their conclusions completely contradict each other, but if you have a position to support, somewhere you can find the statistics to support it.

129 posted on 03/20/2004 4:13:49 AM PST by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: John O
td: But logically, if we outlaw homosexuality (nevermind how we could go about that!) because homosexuals molest children, then we must also outlaw heterosexuality Heterosexuals also molest children.

John O: Molestation is illegal and should be prosecuted to the extreme whenever proven. Since the odds are far greater that someone who practices homosexual behavior will also molest homosexual behavior should be outlawed (this is not the only reason however, just one of many).

You've been doing a great job, John, but you missed one. His comment in parentheses "(nevermind how we could go about that)" completely ignores that making homosexual behavior illegal is the NORM. The homosexuals are using activist judges to remove those laws. We know exactly how we would go about that because we went about that for over 200 years. And, surprisingly enough, it didn't create a bedroom police and didn't turn America into a Christian Taliban nation.

Just thought I'd throw that in for any lurkers.

Good to "see" you.

Shalom.

146 posted on 03/20/2004 6:03:30 PM PST by ArGee ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people." - George W. Bush)
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