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Sticker Shock-$3 a gallon gas? Some links
various FR links | 03-17-04 | The Heavy Equipment Guy

Posted on 03/17/2004 2:08:40 PM PST by backhoe

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Summertime shocker: Gas could hit $3 a gallon
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 1/16/04 | Lucio Guerrero
http://www.oilcrisis.com/magoon/
 
 
Oil Hits One-Year High [at $37.80 per barrel]
Source: Reuters
URL Source: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml? type=businessNews&storyID=4579593
 
 
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Oil At New Highs - Opinions wanted on synthetic oil
MSNBC ^ | 3-16-04 | Jason Rines
This seems like this could be our ace in the hole...
Anything into oil
Stephen den Beste on this process
Anything Into Oil
http://www.discover.com/issues/may-03/features/featoil/
http://www.changingworldtech.com/home.html
 
 
 
Oil Races $1 Higher
CNNFN ^ | 3-15-2004 | Reuters
 
 
 
 
4 DOLLARS A GALLON FOR GAS BY ELECTION DAY - BREAKING ON DRUDGE RADIO
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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I've been saying for years the way to revive and restore the economy ( and it would have headed off these oil price problems as well ) was to-
1- drill for gas & oil like crazy- onshore, offshore, and in Alaska
2- go nuclear for power
3- convert stationary plants to clean coal technology
4- slash taxes and regulations like crazy
 
 
Wow- just in time for $3 a gallon gasoline...
 
 
Gas seen hitting $2 per gallon
Washington Times ^ | Tuesday, March 9, 2004 | By Tom Ramstack
Don't forget the knee-jerk reaction of all left wing liberals when it comes to energy--
First, they just lie. They always lie. They start every single argument with lies. They paint ANWR as some pristine wildlife refuge where all of our cute furry animals are sitting in green fields frolicking with each other.
Second, their history of bad predictions that never panned out are never brought up. All of this garbage was brought up decades ago with drilling in Purdhome Bay and the pipeline.
Third, the left  demands energy independence but can't get their brains out of the toilet long enough to realize what it will take to do so. They won't allow nuclear, coal digging, oil drilling, offshore rigs, etc. But they instead throw out more decade old arguments about solar power and wind power (unless those windmills are off the coast of Martha's Vineyard and ruin a liberals view).
-more-
When I started driving in 1977 the price of regular was $ 0.58 per gallon.
God forbid we drill Alaska...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Most of the price of a gallon of gas is from taxes. But don't hold your breath waiting for any pol to suggest a cut. I heard three retail clerks talking the other day about how we should tap the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. Like that would fix everything. Sheesh. People are so unbelievably clueless.
 
 
U.S. sees cause for concern over gas
Yahoo ^ | 3/5/04 | James R. Healey and James Cox
 
The $1.60 or so a gallon we are paying is about 80 cents gas and 80 cents tax. Europeans $4.00 a gallon is 80 cents gas and $3.20 tax.
 
Most of the price of a gallon of gas is from taxes. But don't hold your breath waiting for any pol to suggest a cut. I heard three retail clerks talking the other day about how we should tap the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. Like that would fix everything. Sheesh. People are so unbelievably clueless.
 
 
 
Other ideas?
 
 
Oil from Coal....Boon, Bane, or Boondoggle?
various links | 12-31-01 | backhoe
 
 
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1098832/posts
Students Gas Up Buses with Fryer Oil
Washington Post ^ | March 16, 2004 | Leef Smith


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To: Lazamataz
Your efforts are interesting, they show a nice little history on this topic. Imagine being upset about $37/bbl oil...

You'll note the first reply was a snarky crack about "panic"-- when gas was about $1.45 a gallon.

My reasoning behind the title was elementary- take the price of gas and double it.

Just to get people's attention focused on how bad it might get. I never thought I'd be a prophet.

And I can remember $0.25 a gallon gas, and Sunoco 260 for high-compression engines, like the first V-8 I ever built with 12.5:1 pistons.

741 posted on 06/18/2006 6:53:02 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: jwalsh07

Thanks for the chart showing that real gas prices are not so high. But why not have much lower gasoline prices?


742 posted on 06/18/2006 6:56:17 AM PDT by ChessExpert (MSM: America's one party press)
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To: ChessExpert
Maybe there should be some counter to not-in-my backyard thinking. Something like no to Federal taxes, yes to state taxes. The idea is to encourage states to support energy production. I admit this is speculative, so feel free to ignore. Just the start of a thought.

I can't see why your idea couldn't be tried-- it's fairly simple business sense that if you want less of an activity, you tax & regulate it to death, and if you want more activity, you lighten up.

Where I live, we have a perfectly good power plant that sits idle most of the time- formerly a coal/oil fired installation, it was forced into converting to a "peaker plant," fueled by natural gas, in the nineties.

Ironically, when it was on the coal cycle, in the sixties, all you could see exiting the stack was heat shimmers- no smoke, it was so clean-burning.

To me, that's just a waste of an expensive plant.

743 posted on 06/18/2006 7:00:34 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: backhoe

Start a new thread:

Sticker Shock: $12.99 a gallon gasoline???


744 posted on 06/18/2006 7:03:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: TopQuark
Why don't you stop panicking and solve problems that exist.

Two years later, time to eat your words. :)

745 posted on 06/18/2006 7:04:17 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Lazamataz
Sticker Shock: $12.99 a gallon gasoline...

Good God, don't even think that- it might come true!

Although, seriously, I guess it's stabilized, with maybe a little downward drift- that last link about a natural gas glut, and dropping prices in my area, may indicate that direction.

Price is a great motivator- I always ask myself that old WWII question-- "is this trip really necessary?"

746 posted on 06/18/2006 7:11:29 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Nuclear power's 'renaissance'?
747 posted on 06/19/2006 4:20:53 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Oil and Gas Company Executives Defend High Pump Prices As Essential to Maintaining Supplies
748 posted on 06/19/2006 4:21:28 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Oil Companies Going Deep with Gulf Drilling
 
Swedish thermoelectric cooler company eyes fridge

749 posted on 06/19/2006 2:01:46 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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North Dakota may be bigger oil player than Alaska
 
Drill offshore to quench thirst for oil

750 posted on 06/20/2006 1:26:53 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: backhoe

the government makes more on gas taxes than the oil companies make in profits....

and the government made the same amont of money off every gallon of gas regardless of the price of crude oil...

http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/1139.html



Table 1. State and Federal Gasoline Taxes Compared to Major U.S. Oil Companies’ Domestic Profits, 1977-2004

(figures in billions of 2004 dollars)


Total
Oil Profits $643.0
Federal Taxes $533.0
State Taxes $810.1
Total Taxes $1,343.1


751 posted on 06/20/2006 1:34:12 PM PDT by edzo4
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To: edzo4

Thanks for the stats- any time I hear a politician ( or media talking head ) rant about "profiteering," I know I am hearing a demagogue pandering to the ignorant masses. Unfortunately, they vote.


752 posted on 06/20/2006 1:42:53 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Hitachi, GE to build nuclear power plants in U.S.
 
The return of nuclear fusion?
 
Scientists believe world is at its hottest for 2,000 years--I thought it was 400 years.
I guess they decided that if they were going to lie, might as well go big.
A great resource for refutation of this nonsense follows, courtesy of finnman69.



These two figures show former temperatures with major periods of glaciation labeled. The dashed lines are the present global average temperature of about 15° C (59° F). Thus the solid curves show small changes from this average; note that the temperature drops only about 5° C during a glaciation. This has occurred about every 100,000 years, with smaller wiggles in between. That is, there has been a 100,000 year glaciation cycle for the past million years or so, and there may be shorter cycles as well.

The most recent glaciation, 20,000 years ago, is called the Laurentide, and Earth is still recovering from it. This map from the The Illinois State Museum exhibit on ice ages shows the extent of that ice.


The most recent small drop in average temperature caused the Little Ice Age of 1500-1700 AD, which history describes. Mountain glaciers advanced in Europe and rivers like the Thames in England froze solid, which doesn't happen now.


Click image for animation

The growth of the ice sheets began about 120,000 years ago as ice built up on the continents in the Northern Hemisphere, especially in Canada and Europe. The largest extent of these ice sheets occurred 18,000 years ago. At that time the largest ice sheets were between 3.5 and 4 km thick. In North America the largest ice sheet was the Laurentide Ice Sheet centered on Hudson Bay with other sheets centered on Greenland and in the Canadian Rocky Mountains. As these ice sheets expanded they grew together, covering Baffin Bay and eventually the Great Lakes and New England. In northwestern Europe the Fennoscandian Ice Sheet began to grow and expand south to cover what is now Norway and Sweden and north to cover the exposed continental shelf. Over time the ice sheet grew to cover Finland and the United Kingdom. This ice sheet extended east to the Ural Mountains where it met the Siberian Ice Sheet. Before the last ice age ice sheets already existed on Antarctica and on Greenland.

Most people seem surprised when we say current levels are relatively low, at least from a long-term perspective - understandable considering the constant media/activist bleat about current levels being allegedly "catastrophically high." Even more express surprise that Earth is currently suffering one of its chilliest episodes in about six hundred million (600,000,000) years. Given that the late Ordovician suffered an ice age (with associated mass extinction) while atmospheric CO2 levels were more than 4,000ppm higher than those of today (yes, that's a full order of magnitude higher), levels at which current 'guesstimations' of climate sensitivity to atmospheric CO2 suggest every last skerrick of ice should have been melted off the planet, we admit significant scepticism over simplistic claims of small increment in atmospheric CO2 equating to toasted planet. Granted, continental configuration now is nothing like it was then, Sol's irradiance differs, as do orbits, obliquity, etc., etc. but there is no obvious correlation between atmospheric CO2 and planetary temperature over the last 600 million years, so why would such relatively tiny amounts suddenly become a critical factor now?


 

753 posted on 06/23/2006 2:56:43 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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US gasoline demand still growing despite prices

EPA report concludes 'boutique' fuels not culprit in high gas prices [i.e. "Don't blame us!"]

754 posted on 06/23/2006 1:15:52 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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North Dakota....bigger oil player than Alaska?
 
Julia Whatley: Toll roads and coal plants
 
Large-Scale, Cheap Solar Electricity

755 posted on 06/24/2006 12:31:24 PM PDT by backhoe
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Julia Whatley: Toll roads and coal plants
 
Large-Scale, Cheap Solar Electricity

756 posted on 06/25/2006 5:54:59 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: All
 

Alberta invades U.S. capital in major push to showcase black gold

 


757 posted on 06/25/2006 12:54:25 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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An Outdated Ban: It's time to allow more offshore drilling. [WaPo Editorial!]--I was just talking about this type of stuff last night with my brother in law who is visiting us from Norway ,he works on the oil rigs there .He told me business is booming ,they are building rigs as fast as they can .I told him this country has been hamstrung by the environmentalists for years...
 
"Climate Catastrophe Cancelled: What You're Not Being Told About the Science of Climate Change"
 
Winds of Change - Researchers tackle problems caused by a warming Arctic landscape--A quick review of global warming:

1. Global warming is real.
2. There's not a damn thing the planet or its humans can do about it. It's a natural cycle and will wax and wane throughout time. If the libnuts want to "stop it", let them figure out how to stop volcanoes from erupting.

That's all anyone needs to know and remember about it. I'm sick and damn tired of this non-issue.
 
Scientists Gaze Inside Sun, Predict Strength of the Next Solar Cycle ~ heavy computer simulation

758 posted on 06/28/2006 3:41:57 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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Most Americans don't know Canada is their biggest oil supplier: poll
759 posted on 06/28/2006 3:42:50 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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AP GETS CAUGHT ON GLOBAL WARMING
 
CAM EDWARDS REPORTS FROM THE U.N. GUN-BAN SUMMIT: Here's Day One, and here's Day Two, where he reports: "A remarkable thing happened at the United Nations yesterday. We, the United States, told the world 'no'."

Check NRANews.com for Cam's live reports on the conference.

Why isn't the MSM covering this? Never mind. (Check Jeff's weekly anti-gun bias check at Alphecca.)


760 posted on 06/28/2006 12:13:13 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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