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Labour (Norway socialist) forges ties with US' Democrats (ELECTION RELATED)
AFTERPOSTEN ^ | 3/17/04 | unknown

Posted on 03/17/2004 10:44:49 AM PST by GailA

Labour forges ties with US' Democrats

Norway's Labour Party is joining other European social democrats in linking up with the Democrats in the US. The goal is to be prepared with common strategies if a majority of them on both sides of the Atlantic come back to power.

A group of European social democrats, led by former British Foreign Minister Robin Cook, met last week with several top Democratic politicians and party officials. They included US senators Hilary Clinton and Joseph Biden.

They also had meetings with Ron Klain of presidential candidate Wesley Clark's campaign, and Stan Greenberg, former US President Bill Clinton's campaign strategist in 1992.

On the agenda was European concern over current US foreign policy and the effects of globalization.

Espen Barth Eide, who led the Norwegian delegation, said the group met "understanding" that "economic globalization must be accompanied by political globalization."

There remain wide differences between the European social democrats and their counterparts in the US, who tend to be far more conservative.

Barth Eide called it "natural" however, "to begin with those (in the US) who are closest to us (in ideology), even though the Democrats of course aren't social democrats."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biden; clinton; democrats; dems; election; hildabeast; kerry; labour; norway; rats
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To: thoughtomator
I first encountered that term about two years ago, in this article (which is a goody):

The Ineducable Left

21 posted on 03/17/2004 11:47:11 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: RWR8189
Isn't Jeff Flake the chief sponsor of the House bill to lift the embargo on Cuba? Isn't he a Republican? Would that mean he is standing with a Communist?
22 posted on 03/17/2004 11:59:42 AM PST by JTG
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To: GailA
Do you realize what the results of this is going to be if they keep this up? The US is going to go isolationist. They are going to withdraw into their own borders, throw out anyone who doesn't belong here, and leave europe in the same position it was in before WWII. We all know what happened after that.

Only this time we will know better than to come to their aid.

23 posted on 03/17/2004 12:06:37 PM PST by McGavin999 (Evil thrives when good men do nothing!)
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To: Cacique
However they are no longer "liberals" now they are "progressives" an old stalinist code word for communist.

There's a nuclear material reprocessing centre here in England, it started out called Windscale then there was an accident (nothing serious, I hasten to add), so they called it Sellafield, that got a bad reputation, now they call it Thorp. The anarcho-leftists are just the same, they keep changing the name in an attempt to pull the wool over people's eyes.

They did, however, make a big mistake with 'The Third Way', that term was originally coined by Oswald Moseley, who founded the 'British Union of Fascists' (which was our equivalent of the Italian Fascists and German Nazis in the 1930s), was a great fan of Hitler and Musollini, and was imprisoned throughout the Second World War.
24 posted on 03/17/2004 12:21:54 PM PST by tjwmason (A voice from Merry England.)
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To: tjwmason
Interesting, Juan Peron also coined the third way during his days in power. He described it as in between capitalism and socialism. His speeches from 1945 onward are peppered with the term. He was also a founder of the non-aligned movement which played a large part in the politics of the 60's and 70's. During this time shcolars in political theory were talking about and coming up with thoeires of "convergence", wereas the capitalist west and communists states were evolving towards each other to create some kind of hybrid that would be socialist and democratic. All crap of course, but it still has a lot of believers out there.



25 posted on 03/17/2004 12:32:21 PM PST by Cacique
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To: mountaineer; Iowa Granny
ping
26 posted on 03/17/2004 12:43:23 PM PST by Endeavor (Don't count your Hatch before it chickens)
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To: Endeavor
Thanks for the ping. I love the euphemism "social democrats" for socialists or outright Marxists. Makes them sound like they're harmless, friendly fellows meeting at the country club, sipping martinis, instead of working feverishly to strip us of our freedoms and national sovereignty!
27 posted on 03/17/2004 12:48:56 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: GailA
UFF DA Bump

Thanks!
28 posted on 03/17/2004 12:53:59 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Support Our Troops! ... Thrash the demRats in November!!! ... Beat BoXer!!!)
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To: workerbee
There remain wide differences between the European social democrats and their counterparts in the US, who tend to be far more conservative.

Hmmmmmmmm, is right workerbee! When are the dems in this country going to embrace the name that more accurately describes their agenda - socialist.

American dems aren't the least bit more conservative than their European counterparts.

29 posted on 03/17/2004 1:08:59 PM PST by Spotsy (Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: thoughtomator
Transnational socialism

Note from the article the lefties have now come up with a new term:
"political globalization".

My interpretation: This is like when the Dems discarded the tradition of not opposing judges simply on their ideology. It now appears they've also abandoned that age old tradition of not cooperating with foreign governments in undermining U.S. foreign policy.

30 posted on 03/17/2004 7:28:22 PM PST by Timeout (Down with Donks!)
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To: GailA
I am amazed that Biden's ,Cook's and Clinton's egos could fit into one room. All the socialists getting together to plan for power,shudder.
31 posted on 03/17/2004 7:48:40 PM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Alia
Meeting of our Dems with the Socialists in Europe.
32 posted on 03/18/2004 11:05:05 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Alia
Ping again
33 posted on 03/18/2004 11:44:11 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: GailA
They are plotting with these people who run the demoCommiecRAT party:

http://www.dsausa.org/


The Enemy Within!!!!:-(
34 posted on 03/18/2004 7:10:44 PM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Defender2
Don't doubt it one bit. When Ken Hamblin first published his news letter I took it. THis was in the very first issue. I transcribed it and kept it on file.

Stop Australia Going Under

Reprinted from political ad in the Western Australian Sunday Times, December 3, 1995

In 1944, Democratic U.S. Congressman Samuel Pettengill warned America that socialists would endeavor to have the U.S. spend itself into bankruptcy, with a view to making citizens totally dependent on a centralized government.

Pettengill detailed TEN POINTS of the socialist manifesto that would destroy free government. Almost 50 years later, down under in Australia, it is disturbing to reflect on Pettengill's 10 points.

1) People must be made to feel their utter helplessness and their inability to solve their own problems. While in this state of mind, there is held up before them a benign and all-wise leader to whom they MUST look to the cure for all their ills.

2) The principle of local self-government must be WIPED OUT, so that this leader or group in control can have all the political power readily at hand.

3) Constitutional guarantees must be swept aside. This accomplished in part by RIDICULING them as outmoded and an obstruction to progress.

4) Public faith in the legal profession and respect for the courts must be undermined. The law making body must be intimidated and from time to time rebuked, so as to prevent the development of public confidence in it.

5) Economically, the people must be ground down by high taxes, which under one pretext or another they are called upon to pay. Thus they are brought to a common level and all income above a meager living is taken from them. In this manner, economic independence is kept to a minimum.

6) A great public debt must be built so the citizens can never escape its burden, making government the virtual receiver for the entire nation.

7) A general distrust of private business and industry must be kept alive so the public may not begin to rely on its own resources.

8) Government bureaus are set up to control practically every phase of the citizen's lives.

9) The education of the youth of the nation is taken under CONTROL so that all may be indoctrinated at an early age with a spirit of submission to the system.

10) To supplement and fortify all the foregoing, there is kept up a steady stream of GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA designed to extol all who bow the knee and to vilify those who dare raise a voice of dissent.

Samuel Barret Pettengill U. S. Congressman 1886-1974

Reprinted from an article in Ken Hamblin 'Talks with America' News letter Feb. 19. 1996

P.O.. Box 562 Castle Rock, CO 80104

PETTENGILL, Samuel Barrett, (nephew of William Horace Clagett), a Representative from Indiana; born in Portland, Oreg., January 19, 1886; in 1892 moved to Vermont with his father, who settled on a farm in Grafton, Windham County; attended the common schools; was graduated from Vermont Academy at Saxtons River in 1904, from Middlebury College, Middlebury, Vt., in 1908, and from the law department of Yale University in 1911; was admitted to the bar in 1912 and commenced practice in South Bend, Ind.; member of the board of education of South Bend, 1926-1928; elected as a Democrat to the Seventy-second and to the three succeeding Congresses (March 4, 1931-January 3, 1939); was not a candidate for renomination in 1938 to the Seventy-sixth Congress; resumed the practice of law; newspaper columist 1939-1948; vice president and general counsel of the Transportation Association of America, 1943-1945; national radio commentator, 1946-1948; attorney for the Pure Oil Co., Chicago, Ill., 1949-1956; consultant, the Coe Foundation, 1956-1965; resided at his boyhood farm near Grafton, Vt.; died in Springfield, Vt., March 20, 1974; interment in Grafton Village Cemetery, Grafton, Vt.

35 posted on 03/18/2004 7:38:29 PM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: GailA
Maybe our Democrat politician would be kind enough to move over there and run for office.
36 posted on 03/18/2004 7:45:11 PM PST by dalebert
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To: GailA
#35. Thanks very much, GailA for posting this information.

We truly do have a very dangerous Enemy Within, unfortunately.


Regards, D2
37 posted on 03/18/2004 8:10:03 PM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Defender2
Read hanoi john's plan to protect America...100,000 NEW union members..er first responders.

click here

38 posted on 03/18/2004 8:43:46 PM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: rellimpank
I agree! I tend not to be an alamist, but this smacks of treason...planning to undercut the US at a time of war, a war these Euro-weenies oppose!

I hope the BC'04 campaign hits this hard.

39 posted on 03/19/2004 3:35:06 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: RWR8189
This stuff needs to be in a new updated chapter of TREASON by Ann Coulter.
40 posted on 03/19/2004 3:36:26 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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