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CIA to investigate leak of drone video (Media more interested in leak than contents of NBC report).
CNN ^ | March 17, 2004 | David Ensor

Posted on 03/17/2004 9:44:29 AM PST by Libertarian444

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:04:02 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. officials say CIA surveillance aircraft video that they think shows Osama bin Laden in 2000 was "highly classified," and that the CIA will investigate who leaked it to the media.

The CIA often investigates when unauthorized material is leaked to the media, U.S. officials said.


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1 posted on 03/17/2004 9:44:30 AM PST by Libertarian444
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To: Libertarian444
Yawn. I predicted this last night on another thread.

So easy to see coming. So much bias.
2 posted on 03/17/2004 9:46:03 AM PST by HarryCaul
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To: Libertarian444
My bet who released it? John F'ing K.
3 posted on 03/17/2004 9:46:15 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Guns!)
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To: isthisnickcool
The leak is to boost the idea that the Clinton Administration was doing something to track Bin Laden prior to 9/11, and that the Bush Administration muffed it, allowing 9/11 to occur.
4 posted on 03/17/2004 9:50:39 AM PST by damper99
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To: Libertarian444
I wouldn't want to have to talk to RUMMY today.
5 posted on 03/17/2004 9:52:54 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: HarryCaul
Just like MemoGate - to the media, the leak is more damning than the actual facts.
6 posted on 03/17/2004 9:55:44 AM PST by Libertarian444
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To: Libertarian444
You could clearly see it was Bin Laden in the video. Not!
7 posted on 03/17/2004 9:55:57 AM PST by John Lenin (John Flip'n Kerry: Two Candidates for the price of one)
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To: Libertarian444
CNN is covering for Clinton by claiming that "government officials" say that it would have taken several hours to launch an attack. The issue is, the attack never happened.
8 posted on 03/17/2004 10:02:21 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY (((Impeach Clintoon Again)))
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To: Libertarian444
I'm convinced there is an internal battle in the CIA between pro- and anti-Bush elements. Too many weird things have been going on, such as the affaire-de-Wilson/Plame.
9 posted on 03/17/2004 10:06:14 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: OXENinFLA
In a perfect world we would hear him live. Instead we hear Kerry!!!
10 posted on 03/17/2004 10:07:58 AM PST by malia (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 - Peaceful Tomorrows-ANSWER(just tip of the iceberg)=Tides=Heinz Foundations)
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To: Libertarian444
the Clinton administration at one time planned to seize bin Laden at Tarnak Farm but never carried out the mission, in part over concerns about killing innocent women and children

This is an incorrect reading of Coll.

Actually Coll said that the CIA's OBL task force of field operatives wanted to attack/capture him at Tarnak, but that Clinton admin officials were skittish, and the Reno DoJ repeatedly generated memos with ambiguous authorizations to use force and which were intended to let the task force (and not the Clinton admin) hang if anything went wrong.

Clinton admin officials thought the CIA's OBL task force was full of "Jonestown" hysterics and did everything possible to erect bureaucratic and personal blockades in the way of capturing him.

Coll makes it clear there was a great deal of dithering and CYA within the entire Clinton admin on the topic of OBL. But the Reno DoJ did the most to thwart a successful effort.

11 posted on 03/17/2004 10:15:36 AM PST by angkor
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To: malia
Question about this was just asked at the WH presser.(by the TALON news guy)
12 posted on 03/17/2004 10:34:43 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Libertarian444
Scott McClelan just mention the 9-11 commission.

I wonder if they got this tape and it was leaked thru them?
13 posted on 03/17/2004 10:36:48 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: angkor
"But the Reno DoJ did the most to thwart a successful effort. "

She was holding out for information that they were abusing children at the farm.

14 posted on 03/17/2004 10:37:54 AM PST by bayourod (We can depend on Scary Kerry's imaginary foreign leaders to protect us from terrorists.)
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To: Steve_Seattle; Jeff Gannon; Carl/NewsMax; archy; seamole
I'm convinced there is an internal battle in the CIA between pro- and anti-Bush elements. Too many weird things have been going on, such as the affaire-de-Wilson/Plame.

Prague Atta, etc. etc. Reading the press, especially the New York Times, is like the old art of "Kremlinology" - reading Pravda to decipher who's ascending, who's descending.

Might reflect intra-bureaucratic gripes, foreign intervention/infiltration, bad hair days, who knows?

15 posted on 03/17/2004 10:49:57 AM PST by Shermy (Stirring the pot...)
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To: Libertarian444
It is amazing how the media reacts to leaks depending on who the leaker is. Congressional Democrats can leave special "closed door" committee meetings and parts of the hearing end up on a front page the next day...and the media never questions the leak. War plans on Iraq can appear on the front page of the NY Times, months ahead of the attack...and the media never questions the leak or pushes for investigations. Even Rummy's personal meetings can end up their, but barely a wimper about how they got there.

The women of Enron are championed as Whistleblowers, yet Linda Tripp who reveals a crime...or Miranda who exposes a Democrat conspiracy to obstruct Bush's judicial nominees, are attacked as deceitful of betraying some confidence. As Tripp is threatened by the FBI, the old couple who illegally taped a cellphone conversation between Gingrich and an associate, fade into oblivion.

And finally, as Bush is blamed for not preventing 9/11, we have the release of a video from 2000 that shows OBL with other high-ranking AQ members. Instead of the focus being why did Clinton let OBL slip away (as NBC originally put it), the story has changed into "who leaked the CIAs video?" I just can't take this anymore.
16 posted on 03/17/2004 10:55:08 AM PST by cwb (Kerry: The only person who could make Bill Clinton look like a moderate)
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To: cwb
It is amazing how the media reacts to leaks depending on who the leaker is.
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Case in point. From today's NY Slimes:
(Leaks that hurt Bush = Leaker is a hero; Leaks that hurt Democrats = Must investigate the leak).

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/18/politics/18MEDI.html?hp

March 18, 2004
Mysterious Fax Adds to Intrigue Over the Medicare Bill's Cost
By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG and ROBERT PEAR

WASHINGTON, March 17 — Late one Friday afternoon in January, after the House of Representatives had adjourned for the week, Cybele Bjorklund, a House Democratic health policy aide, heard the buzz of the fax machine at her desk. Coming over the transom, with no hint of the sender, was a document she had been seeking for months: an estimate by Medicare's chief actuary showing the cost of prescription drug benefits for the elderly.

Dated June 11, 2003, the document put the cost at $551.5 billion over 10 years. It appeared to confirm what Ms. Bjorklund and her bosses on the House Ways and Means Committee had long suspected: the actuary, Richard S. Foster, had concluded the legislation would be far more expensive than Congress's $400 billion estimate — and had kept quiet while lawmakers voted on the bill and President Bush signed it into law.

Ms. Bjorklund had been pressing Mr. Foster for his numbers since June. When he refused, telling her he could be fired, she said, she confronted his boss, Thomas A. Scully, then the Medicare administrator. "If Rick Foster gives that to you," Ms. Bjorklund remembered Mr. Scully telling her, "I'll fire him so fast his head will spin." Mr. Scully denies making such threats.

These conversations among three government employees — an obscure Congressional aide, a little-known actuary and a high-level official — remained secret until now, and Ms. Bjorklund still does not know who sent the fax. But Mr. Foster went public last week, and details of his struggle for independence within the Bush administration are now emerging, raising questions about whether the White House intentionally withheld crucial data from lawmakers.

The administration says Democrats, whose Medicare proposals would have cost nearly $1 trillion, are exploiting the controversy for political gain at the expense of the elderly. But some Republicans are openly questioning the White House, and the Senate Democratic leader, Tom Daschle of South Dakota, said he saw a "growing scandal over the Medicare drug bill."

Senator Edward M. Kennedy, the Massachusetts Democrat and a leading critic of the Medicare bill, put the issue in stark, Watergate-era terms, saying, "What did the president know; when did he know it?"

Those questions have not been answered. But interviews with federal officials, including Mr. Foster and Mr. Scully, make clear that the actuary's numbers were circulating within the administration, and possibly on Capitol Hill, throughout the second half of last year, as Congress voted on the prescription drug bill, first in June and again in November.

But the figures were either discounted or ignored, as lawmakers and the White House grappled with the political imperative to pass the legislation.

At a hearing on Feb. 10, Tommy G. Thompson, the secretary of health and human services, told lawmakers that "we knew all along" that the administration's cost estimates would be higher, but said he did not have a final figure, of $534 billion, until Dec. 24, after the bill was signed into law. Nonetheless, Mr. Thompson said he and Mr. Scully had shared their estimates with House and Senate negotiators and with the White House throughout the legislative process.

"There were individuals in the White House who knew that our preliminary estimates were higher," Mr. Thompson testified.

Yet as late as November, Mr. Scully continued to cite the $400 billion figure, which came from the Congressional Budget Office. In a letter to The New York Times published on Nov. 20, Mr. Scully wrote, "We are spending $400 billion."

One House negotiator, Representative Nancy L. Johnson, Republican of Connecticut, said she knew of the higher estimates last year, but discounted them because she thought Mr. Foster's assumptions were flawed. "Absolutely, we knew about these numbers," she said.

But Representative Tom DeLay, the House majority leader, who was also a negotiator, said on Wednesday that he did not learn of the higher estimates until January, when he attended a Republican leaders' retreat. An aide to Mr. DeLay said Joshua B. Bolten, President Bush's budget director, presented the $534 billion final figure at that meeting.

"The leaders about took his head off," said the aide, Stuart Roy, adding, "It was very clear that none of the leaders in that room had ever heard those numbers before."

Mr. DeLay told reporters on Wednesday that the actuary's numbers are "irrelevant to the policy that we passed." In any event, he said, Congress is required to use the estimates of the Congressional Budget Office.

But Mr. Foster's figures do have significance. The Medicare bill was President Bush's highest legislative priority going into the election year, and Congressional forecasts about its cost were highly uncertain. At the same time, conservative lawmakers were up in arms over the expense, and were threatening to vote against the measure.

Ultimately, the legislation squeaked through the House by a final vote of 220 to 215, but only after Republican leaders kept the roll call open for nearly three hours while they twisted the arms of recalcitrant party members. Had the cost estimates been higher than the Congressional Budget Office figures, lawmakers of both parties say, it is possible the Republican-backed bill would have been doomed, or at least significantly altered.

Democrats, sensing a political opportunity in an election year, are now calling for hearings. On Wednesday, Representative Henry A. Waxman, Democrat of California, threatened to sue Mr. Thompson to get access to Mr. Foster's estimates. Some Republicans are also demanding answers.

"If anyone was truly pressured by a superior to withhold information from Congress, that is profoundly unethical and inappropriate," said Representative Trent Franks, an Arizona Republican who voted reluctantly for the bill.

Seeking to quell the furor, Mr. Thompson announced Tuesday that he had ordered an independent inquiry by the office of the inspector general in his department.

"We have nothing to hide," the secretary said.

This is not the first time Medicare's chief actuary has been caught in a political tempest. In 1997, Republicans, frustrated in their efforts to get information from the actuary under the Clinton administration, wrote into law provisions protecting his independence and stating that he "may be removed only for cause."

Ms. Bjorklund said Democrats routinely made direct requests of Mr. Foster, who has held the actuary's job since 1995. But in an interview on Wednesday, Mr. Scully said that from the time he took office in 2001, he disagreed with Mr. Foster over how much independence the actuary should have.

"Rick felt he was an independent operator," said Mr. Scully, who resigned in December to join a law firm. "My view was that the actuary is part of the executive branch. We had to have some ability to know what he was doing."

Mr. Foster said that he was told in June 2003 that he should not respond directly to certain Congressional requests, and that `the consequences of insubordination would be very severe." Moreover, he said, "there was a pattern of withholding information for what I perceived to be political purposes."

The tensions peaked that month, when, Ms. Bjorklund said, she learned Republicans were drafting a provision that would set up competition between private health plans and the traditional government-run Medicare program. On June 17, she sent Mr. Foster an e-mail message asking him to estimate the proposal's cost. On June 24, still lacking the information, she telephoned him.

"He said, `I cannot give it to you. I'm afraid I could be fired,' " Ms. Bjorklund said. After reminding him that he could be fired only for cause, she said, she called Mr. Scully, who, she said, declared that he could fire Mr. Foster for "insubordination — directly defying my orders."

Mr. Scully remembers a heated conversation, but says he never threatened to fire Mr. Foster. But the exchange was so upsetting to Ms. Bjorklund, she said, that she told her boss, Representative Pete Stark of California, the senior Democrat on the health subcommittee of the Ways and Means panel.

The next day, June 25, Mr. Stark put out a news release about it, without mentioning Mr. Foster by name. But with the House preparing to vote on the Medicare bill, Mr. Stark said, his accusations were lost in the bigger battle. On June 26, just hours before the vote, Ms. Bjorklund said, she received a part of the information she had requested from Mr. Foster, but still no cost estimates.

Over the months that followed, Ms. Bjorklund said, she continued to ask for the actuary's estimates, without success. Not until Jan. 30, when the anonymous fax was sent, did she get a peek at those numbers.

17 posted on 03/18/2004 7:35:41 AM PST by Libertarian444
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To: Libertarian444
I think that this may backfire on the dems/media.

Everyone knows this tape would be pushed under the table under normal circumstances. This mini-scandal, which was probably the 911 commission's doing, will only highlight the video.

It may also highlight the President's concern with providing this commission top secret info from his daily briefing. If it can't be trusted with secret info they won't be allowed access.
18 posted on 03/18/2004 7:39:54 AM PST by Republican Red ("I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it,")
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