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To: archy
Your analysis of the relatively loose Glock chamber dimensions as the major cause in the Glock KaBoom! saga is correct. We laughingly call this the "ramped, but fully unsupported" barrel. Most of the civilian blowups can be accounted for by idiots producing doubly-charged rounds. Explosions in law enforcement hands (or case blowouts - its not clear from this article which type of KaBoom! they were experiencing) are not so clearly understood since I don't think that police departments use reloaded or hand-loaded rounds.

There has been a lot of speculation about the Glock problems. Three theories have emerged: some units have a timing problem in which they will fire before they are completely locked up; unsupported chambers could lead to case blowouts with both factory and hand-loaded rounds; some of the Glock barrels seem to have a metallurgy problem, i.e., they have measured out pretty low on the Brinnell Hardness Scale. I have replaced the factory barrels (with KKM Precision barrels) on my Model 17 and Model 21 and will soon do the same on my Model 22.

59 posted on 03/17/2004 3:40:42 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: 45Auto
The ammo in the two guns from Portland was Federal Classic Hi-Shok, 45D. Reportedly the ammo was from two different lots
62 posted on 03/17/2004 4:40:33 PM PST by glock rocks (molon labe)
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To: 45Auto
Glock kaBOOM! incidents.
69 posted on 03/18/2004 3:02:24 AM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: 45Auto
Your analysis of the relatively loose Glock chamber dimensions as the major cause in the Glock KaBoom! saga is correct. We laughingly call this the "ramped, but fully unsupported" barrel. Most of the civilian blowups can be accounted for by idiots producing doubly-charged rounds. Explosions in law enforcement hands (or case blowouts - its not clear from this article which type of KaBoom! they were experiencing) are not so clearly understood since I don't think that police departments use reloaded or hand-loaded rounds.

Depends. I got Shanghaied into helping out a pal who was calling in favors from every Dillon reloader owner he knew who got a contract to reload a hundred thousand rounds of .223 for a state prison system for training ammo for their mini-14s and model 700 sniper rifles. It was an interesting week's effort, during which I was supplied with all the free cokes and pizza I could handle, the cost of which was an arm that was sore for a month. I had a primer pocket swadger and ran every one of those little cases through it, pulled the handle, and dumped em in a 6-gallon bucket. I wore out 3 pairs of cotton gloves during the exercise....

One old Sheriff I used to work for- not as a Deputy- got his departments' .38 and .357 ammo reloaded using jail trustee labor, a process that seemed iffy to me, but he never had a problem during the 8 years he held the position, and his deputies could shoot. I got free ammo too, so I didn't complain too much. Ammo for semiautos requires a little more care and precision though, and in a semiauto handgun I'd rather prepare my own, thank you very much.

There has been a lot of speculation about the Glock problems. Three theories have emerged: some units have a timing problem in which they will fire before they are completely locked up; unsupported chambers could lead to case blowouts with both factory and hand-loaded rounds; some of the Glock barrels seem to have a metallurgy problem, i.e., they have measured out pretty low on the Brinnell Hardness Scale. I have replaced the factory barrels (with KKM Precision barrels) on my Model 17 and Model 21 and will soon do the same on my Model 22.

KKM, Jarvis and Bar-Sto all make very nice replacement Glock barrels, and there are a couple of other possibilities. I once considered going the .357 SIG barrel route with my own Glock 22, but it got replaced with a new Glock 17 instead, and I have no regrets thereof.

72 posted on 03/18/2004 6:43:42 AM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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