FReeper Canteen ~ Part IX of Women Warriors: Women Soldiers and Sailors ~ March 16, 2004

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Part IX: Women Soldiers & Sailors

In 1428 a 16 year old peasant girl named Jehanne la Pucelle convinced the Dauphin of France to put her in charge of his army by promising to reclaim Orleans from the English and have him crowned at Riems. In May 1429 she led the army in the battle that returned Orleans to the French and two months later watched the Dauphin crowned Charles VII of France in the Cathedral of Reims. In May 1430 the girl who became known to the world as Joan of Arc was captured by the Burgundians during her attack on Compiegne and sold to the English. She was charged in an ecclesiastical court with heresy, blasphemy, idolatry, and sorcery. In May 1431 she was burned at the stake in the market place of Rouen as a relapsed heretic. Her relapse consisted of donning the men's clothing she had worn throughout her career and which she had earlier agreed to abandon in order to save herself from the stake.

There are accounts, verified by multiple official sources, of more than 20 women who dressed as men and served in the British Royal Navy or Marines from the late 17th to the early 19th centuries. In 1690 Anne Chamberlyne joined her brother's ship and fought in the battle against the French off Beachy Head. A tablet to her memory was placed in the wall of the Chelsea Old Church, London, along with other Chamberlyne family memorials. The English translation of the original Latin read, "In an adjoining vault lies Anne, the only daughter of Edward Chamberlyne, Doctor of Laws, born in London, the 20th January 1667, who having long declined marriage and aspiring to great achievements unusual to her sex and age, on the 30th June 1690, on board a fireship in man's clothing, as a second Pallas, chaste and fearless fought valiantly six hours against the French ...".

It was also not unusual for the wives of crewmen to live aboard both English and French warships. During battles they would deliver water and carry gun powder from the magazine to the cannons as well as assisting the ships' surgeon.

John Nichols, a seaman aboard the HMS Goliath wrote of the women aboard during the Battle of the Nile on Aug. 1, 1798, "There were some of the women wounded, and one woman belonging to Leith died of her wounds and was buried on a small island in the bay. One woman bore a son in the heat of the action; she belonged to Edinburgh." The names of four of the women aboard the Goliath during the battle were listed in the ship's muster book which stated they were "victualed at two-thirds allowance in consideration of their assistance in dressing and attending on the wounded, being widows of men slain in the fight with the enemy on the first day of August."

In 1847 the British government decided that Queen Victoria would award a Naval General Service Medal to all living survivors of the major battles fought between 1793 and 1840. Mary Ann Riley and Ann Hopping, who had been aboard the Goliath during the Battle of the Nile, and Jane Townshend, who was aboard the Defiance at Trafalgar in 1805, applied and were originally approved by the Admirals reviewing the claims. They were later refused the medal on the basis that, "There were many women in the fleet equally useful, and it will leave the Army exposed to innumerable applications of the same nature." [Italics in original]. More than 20,000 men received the medal including at least one who was an infant at the time the ship he was on engaged in battle.

Kit Cavanagh, better known as "Mother Ross" was one of several women who served as dragoons in the British Army. She fought during the 1690's at first disguised as a man and later openly as a woman. She was wounded several times but survived and received a military burial when she eventually died of old age. Ann Mills was another British dragoon who fought on the frigate Maidstone in 1740.

Phoebe Hessel's gravestone in Brighton churchyard Sussex, tells of her having, "served for many years as a private Soldier in the 5th Reg't of foot in different parts of Europe and in the year 1745 fought under the command of the Duke of Cumberland at the Battle of Fontenoy where she received a bayonet wound in her arm. Her long life which commenced in the time of Queen Anne extended into the reign of George IV, by whose munificence she received comfort and support in her later years."

Angelique Brulon defended Corsica in seven campaigns between 1792 and 1799. At first she fought disguised as a man, by the time her gender was discovered she had proved so valuable in battle that she was allowed to remain in the military fighting openly as a woman. She commanded male troops at Calvi who later drew up a testimonial which read in part, "We the garrison at Calvi certify that Marie-Angelique Josephine Duchemin Brulon, acting sergeant, commanding the attack on Fort Gesco, fought with us with the courage of a heroine". They went on to commend her skill with a sword and in hand to hand combat. She was promoted to the rank of lieutenant in 1822 and personally presented the French Legion of Honor by Napoleon III.

Marie Schellinck, a Belgian, fought for France in the Napoleonic Wars. She was wounded at Jemmappes, Austerlitz and Jena. She received the French Legion of Honor and a military pension in 1808. Virginie Ghesquiere who fought under Junot in Portugal and Angelique Brulon were two other women awarded the French Legion of Honor in the 18th century.

In 1807 Napoleon removed the French Legion of Honor from his own chest and awarded it to Ducaud Laborde, who fought openly as a woman with a troop of hussars at the battles of Eylau, Friedland and Waterloo. Although she was wounded at Friedland she continued to fight and captured 6 prisoners. At Waterloo her husband was killed and her military career ended when a cannon ball destroyed her leg. 

Elizabeth Hatzler wore the uniform of a French dragoon and fought beside her husband in several battles in 1812. She carried him during the army's retreat after he was wounded in a losing battle against the Cossacks.

Sylvia Mariotti served as a private in the 11th Battalion of the Italian Bersaglieri from 1866 to 1879. She fought the Austrians in the Battle of Custozza.

Next Tuesday Part IX of Women Warriors:

Women Revolutionaries

[Aeronaut]

Good morning MoJo.

[Atlantic Friend]

Hi, MoJo ! Good day to you too !

No, today is warm and sunny and awfully quiet...that is, until now. I'm going to get something to eat and maybe stroll a moment, the weather's SO fine !

What about you, o Goddess of the Supernatural Tan ?

[MoJo2001]

I will be doing stuff in my house today. Blah! Blah! Blah! Blah!

In my alternative life, I would be globetrotting around the world looking for some obscure artifact that even Indiana Jones doesn't know about.

Until such time, I will have to attend to making sure my kids get breakfast before school.

Isn't reality grand? Hehe!

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

From Last Night's thread!

To: Kathy in Alaska; All

Hi everyone! Leave it to an internet junkie like me to sniff out a terminal while waiting to fly home. Just wanted to let everyone know that I was ok and enjoying sitting around doing nothing for a few days. I'll let everyone know when I make it to Ft. Riley. If I don't talk to you before then HAPPY st. PATRICKS DAY!!!

620 posted on 03/16/2004 1:00:59 AM PST by txradioguy (HOOAH!! Not Just A Word...A Way OF Life!!!!!)

[txradioguy]

Hi everyone! Leave it to an internet junkie like me to sniff out a terminal while waiting to fly home. Just wanted to let everyone know that I was ok and enjoying sitting around doing nothing for a few days. I'll let everyone know when I make it to Ft. Riley. If I don't talk to you before then HAPPY st. PATRICKS DAY!!!

[MoJo2001]

Good morning back at ya!


Are you going to fly me out anywhere today?? I'm thinking somewhere nice and sunny would work. How about it??

You wouldn't make MoJo have to stay in rainy VA, would you? Hehe!

[MoJo2001]

OH THAT IS AWESOME!!

PRAYERS FOR YOUR SAFETY DURING TRANSIT!!

*HUGS* to you txradioguy. Thank you for your service. I know your family is probably beside themselves with joy. I know I'm excited and I'm not related.



(Well technically we are all related on God's green Earth and blah! blah! blah! Hehe!)

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!

[E.G.C.]

((HUGS))How's it going?

The weatehr's nice today. Lower 70's for a hi.

[E.G.C.]

Good morning, Tonk. How's it going?

[MoJo2001]

Oh! Just splendid. MoJo will be jetting to your house in a nanosecond. You have coffee brewing, right? Hehe!

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Thanks for today's thread!

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Doing Good E.G.C.!
WOO HOO Spring starts Sunday!

[tiamat]

Good Morning, MoJo!

Caitlin is all excited because Spring Break is in just a couple of weeks. She has also been invited to attend an ice-skating party, AND she starts swimming class this next week. She pretty stoked as a result.



We have frozen white crap falling out of the sky again, and I wish it would warm up soon, because we need to shear the llamas soon and get ready for the first big 4-H show of the season!

Can't have frozen nekkid llamas! LOL!

Hugs to you too!

[tiamat]

Thanks for pointing this out Tonk!

Hey Tex! Good Luck!

And Happy St. Patrick's to YOU, too!

(It's never too early for Homebrew! )

[TalBlack]

You show contempt for Joan of Arc (Saint Joan) when you transmit the canard that she wore "mens clothing".

1. IN HER OWN WORDS she denied this. She wore SOLDIERS clothing and hair. To do otherwise would have left her vulnerable to attack. SHE made this distinction.

2. You show contempt for Joan of Arc when you fail to describe her REASON for going to the King and asking to be placed in charge of his troops.

You show contempt for Joan of Arc when you use a slanted history of her to undergird a proposition that she would have despised: woman in combat. Yeah, that's right, if that last makes no sense to you see #2., as she explained this IN HER OWN WORDS.

Joan of Arc was a PIOUS humble woman who worshipped God formally three times a day when she was near a church. She honored her father only second to God.

It is safe to say that she would have ridiculed the on-going failed experiment in the feminization of the military because she ALWAYS ridiculed and had utter contempt for lies. See Elaine Donnelly at the center for military readiness. Elaine is still waiting for the paperwork on all those girl "pilots" she accused and dismissed as unfit to hold their positions. The military hasen't stood up for their "pilots" by producing the paperwork that proves Donnelly slandered them. They never will because they CAN'T.

Joan of Arc had no fem-Left ax to grind. She considered herself a servant of God and therefore to Truth. She would have prayed for you.

[4CJ]

Mmmmm, coffee. Good morning all. Kudos to the women warriors!

[tomkow6]

 

SALUTE!

 

[tomkow6]

Good morning, LaDiva! Good morning, Canteen Crew! Good morning, EVERYBODY!

GOOD  

MORNING

TROOPS!

Me for PREZ! VOTE !!!

[tomkow6]

 

Today's FEEBLE

YOKE:

Two elderly couples were enjoying friendly conversation when one of the men asked the other,

” Fred, how was the memory clinic you went to last month?"

"Outstanding," Fred replied. "They taught us all the latest psychological techniques: visualization, association, etc. It was great." "That's great! And what was the name of the clinic?"

Fred went blank. He thought and thought, but couldn't remember. Then a smile broke across his face and he
asked, "What do you call that flower with the long stem and thorns?"
"You mean a rose?"
"Yes, that's it!" He turned to his wife, "Rose, what was the name of that memory clinic?"

[tomkow6]

 

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