Read the story. The Times, that fearless friend of the working man, uses its gorilla power to screw its freelance photographers out of their copyrights.
A freelancer on Times assignment to Iraq gets $250 a day.
Basically, they are demanding that the freelancer have little more right to his own work that a staff photog -- you could call it a form of outsourcing.
I wonder if this is related to a couple of recent incidents where the photographs provided by freelancers on Times assignments exposed the Times staff reporters as lying...?
d.o.l.
Criminal Number 18F
To: Criminal Number 18F
Now they know what its like to be a Hollywood screenwriter.
To: an amused spectator; Timesink
Round up the usual suspects!
By the way, the whole article reveals that the Boston Globe (which today went out on a limb to cover Kerry's six, on an item Kerry has already copped to... no bias there!) goes even farther to screw its photogs.
Kinda like the way Kerry and Teresa treat the help. Nobody is crummier to working people than a self-righteous Friend of Labor.
d.o.l.
Criminal Number 18F
To: Criminal Number 18F
What the New York Times is proposing is slavery. I thought they were against slavery. Maybe that's only for black people. I wonder if they know there are also black photographers that they would like to bond into slavery.
To: Criminal Number 18F
Gee whiz! Did J. Jonah Jameson take over the New York Times?!
5 posted on
03/15/2004 6:49:24 PM PST by
sittnick
(There's no salvation in politics.)
To: Criminal Number 18F
It's called insourcing.
7 posted on
03/15/2004 6:52:36 PM PST by
spald
To: Criminal Number 18F
Maybe I don't understand the problem. Why don't they just quit doing business with THE Slimes? Surely there are other rags looking for photos.
8 posted on
03/15/2004 6:58:05 PM PST by
freeangel
(freeangel)
To: Criminal Number 18F
The Times, that fearless friend of the working man, I was thinking the same thing, 18F. But that's what all such "friends of equality" really think: "Your house is my house and my house is my house."
Thank you, sir, for serving our great country and protecting us."
9 posted on
03/15/2004 7:04:36 PM PST by
TopQuark
To: Criminal Number 18F
Long term digital archival rights, and the revenue stream it can produce, looks to be the motivating factor here. The NYT print edition has many ads hawking the NYT "Photos of the Century" archives at full NYC retail price for a print.
Here's hoping the freelancers start digitally manipulating photos in an organized work action against the NYT....
To: Criminal Number 18F
This is going on all over. It really puts the screws to freelancers, since they are small businessmen, not employees.
$250/day sounds great at first -- wow -- $65,000 a year. That $250/day is subject to self-employment tax AND you get no benefits. Add in health insurance costs, the $25,000 in equipment (figure $5000 per year as an ongoing equipment expense), the reality that that $250/day isn't a guarantee and you are living on $20,000 per year.
Then, they take away your ability to make any additional money from future sales...
To: Timesink; *CCRM; governsleastgovernsbest; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; ...
15 posted on
03/15/2004 7:43:38 PM PST by
an amused spectator
(Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to be lied to by Democrats)
To: Liz
Schadenping.
To: Criminal Number 18F
A microcosm of socialism consuming itself. Go individual photographer! Go capitalism! Go internet!
19 posted on
03/16/2004 4:45:05 AM PST by
PGalt
To: Criminal Number 18F
You're right. This is an outrage. First North American rights should be the limit -- shame on the New York Times.
Read the story. The Times, that fearless friend of the working man, uses its gorilla power to screw its freelance photographers out of their copyrights
20 posted on
03/16/2004 7:28:43 AM PST by
GOPJ
(NFL Owners: Grown men don't watch hollywood peep shows with wives and children.)
To: archy; Criminal Number 18F
Freelance Ping
21 posted on
03/16/2004 7:32:43 AM PST by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Criminal Number 18F
A freelancer on Times assignment to Iraq gets $250 a day. There is absolutely NOTHING I would be willing to do in Iraq for $250 a day. NOTHING.
Not plumping pillows at the Bagdad Hilton - NOTHING.
22 posted on
03/16/2004 7:42:32 AM PST by
mombonn
(Viva Bush/Cheney!)
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