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NIXON TARGETED KERRY FOR ANTI-WAR VIEWS
MSNBC.com ^ | March 15, 2004 | Brian Williams

Posted on 03/15/2004 4:57:22 PM PST by ntnychik

NIXON TARGETED KERRY FOR ANTI-WAR VIEWS

White House tapes reveal then-president’s attempt to discredit Kerry during 1971 war protests, Senate testimony

By Brian Williams, Correspondent

NBC News Updated: 5:43 p.m. ET March 15, 2004

John Kerry’s first steps onto the national political stage took place back in 1971, when as a returning Vietnam War hero, Kerry lead fellow veterans to Washington to protest against the Vietnam War and testify to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee about the horrors of the war he had seen first hand. Now a NBC News examination of White House audio tapes shows that Kerry’s leadership drew the attention and the ire of President Richard Nixon.

Kerry was a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War and went to Washington for a week in April, 1971 to protest, lobby Congress, even to return hundreds of medals and service decorations — thrown into a heap on Capitol Hill. Though the president was gradually withdrawing American ground troops, the veterans said that wasn’t enough. They wanted the United States to pull out immediately.

The Nixon administration went to court to block the 1,200 veterans from camping out on the Mall during their protest, but Kerry and his group stayed put. The reaction from Nixon’s inner circle was real contempt for the veterans. In private conversations inside the White House, Nixon called them “horrible” and “bastards,” Haldeman described the veterans as “ratty-looking,” and Kissinger dismissed them as “inarticulate.”

But John Kerry was just the opposite — presentable, politically astute and very articulate. He appeared before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to testify against the war, critical of the President’s Vietnam policy. “Someone has to die,” Kerry told the committee, “so that President Nixon won’t be, and these are his words, ‘the first President to lose a war.’”

"Well, he is sort of a phony, isn't he?

— President Richard Nixon, May, 1971-- Speaking with aide Charles Colson about John Kerry

Kerry also questioned the administration’s strategy of gradual “Vietnamization” of the war — pulling out U.S. ground troops, and turning the war over to the South Vietnamese military. “How do you ask a man to be the last man to die in Vietnam?” Kerry demanded. “How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?”

White House attention

Kerry's testimony reached a national audience, including, we now know from once-secret White House tapes, the president himself, who brought it up with his chief of staff Bob Haldeman. Here is an excerpt from a tape recorded on April 23, 1971, the day after Kerry’s Senate testimony:

Nixon: Apparently, this fellow, uh, that they put in the front row, is that what you say, the front [unintelligible] the real stars — Kerry.

Haldeman: Kerry. He is, he did a hell of a great job on the, uh --

Nixon: He was extremely effective.

And Haldeman concluded: “I think you’ll find Kerry running for political office.”

Related documents: Extended excerpts from the Nixon White House tapes

Kerry ended his week in Washington with a speech to a huge anti-war rally at the U.S. Capitol, again pointing the finger at the Nixon administration for its conduct of the war, and its reaction to the veterans’ protests. “This is a government that cares more about the legality of where men sleep than the legality of where we drop bombs and why men die,” Kerry declared.

The Nixon White House saw Kerry as a threat, and set out to discredit him and infiltrate his organization. The week after the protest rally, Nixon is heard discussing Kerry with White House aide Charles Colson:

Colson: This fellow Kerry that they had on last week --

Nixon: Yeah.

Colson: -- hell, he turns out to be, uh, really quite a phony.

Nixon: Well, he is sort of a phony, isn't he?

Colson: Well, he stayed, when he was here --

Nixon: Stayed out in Georgetown, yeah. [edit]

Colson: -- was out at the best restaurants every night and, uh --

Nixon: Sure.

Colson: -- you know, he's just, the complete opportunist.

Nixon: A racket, sure. [edit]

Colson: We’ll keep hitting him, Mr. President.

Nixon's counter-attack

Colson was Nixon’s point man against Kerry, and he found a weapon in another veteran: John O’Neill. He was a spokesman for Vietnam Veterans for a Just Peace, which backed Nixon administration policy in Vietnam, and in turn was supported by the White House.

The White House file

John O’Neill, selected to debate John Kerry about the Vietman War, in the Oval Office with President Nixon and White House aide Charles Colson.

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Fresh out of the Navy like Kerry, O’Neill was angry at Kerry for saying U.S. servicemen in Vietnam routinely committed war crimes. The weekend before the Washington protests, Kerry made the accusations on NBC’s Meet the Press, saying, “I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed, in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones.” And, Kerry claimed, “I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All this is contrary to the laws of warfare.”

John O’Neill hit back at Kerry with administration-orchestrated press appearances of his own, including a news conference that June. O’Neill asked rhetorically, “Shall Mr. Kerry and his little group of one thousand or twelve thousand embittered men be allowed to represent their views as that of all veterans, because they can appear on every news program? I hope not, for the country’s sake.”

After the news conference, O’Neill met with Charles Colson at the White House, where the attack on Kerry was seen as a public relations coup. In a conversation with the president, Haldeman gave the credit to Charles Colson, and raved about John O’Neill:

Haldeman: -- crew cut, real sharp looking guy who is more articulate than Kerry. He’s not as eloquent; he isn’t the ham that Kerry is. But he’s more believable. [edit]

Haldeman: This guy now, is gonna, he’s gonna move on Kerry.

“This is a government that cares more about the legality of where men sleep than the legality of where we drop bombs and why men die.”

— John Kerry, April, 1971-- Anti-war rally, U.S. Capitol

The White House encouraged O’Neill to challenge Kerry to a debate. Kerry agreed and before the event, President Nixon called O’Neill into the Oval Office for a pep talk. “It’s a great service to the country,” declared the president.

Nixon: Give it to him, give it to him. And you can do it, because you have a pleasant manner, too, because you’ve got — and I think it’s a great service to the country. [edit]

Nixon: You fellows have been out there. You’ve got to know, seeing the barbarians that we’re up against, you’ve got to know what we’re doing in that horrible swamp that North Vietnam is. You’ve got to know from all our faults of what we have in this country that, that what we’re doing is right. You’ve got to know too, people are critics. Critics of the war, critics of [unint], run America down. [edit] You’ve gotta know that you’re on the winning s—that, that you’re on the right side.

Two weeks later, the veterans squared off on the popular Dick Cavett show:

O’Neill: Mr. Kerry is the type of person who lives and survives only on the war weariness and fears of the American people. This is the same little man who on nationwide television in April spoke of, quote, crimes committed on a day to day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command.

Kerry: We believe as veterans who took part in this war we have nothing to gain by coming back here and talking about those things that have happened except to try and point the way to America, to try and say, here is where we went wrong, and we’ve got to change.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cavettshow; kerry; nixon; oneill; phony; testimony; vvaw
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To: international american
I know and understand that time. :-)

I may have been a child, but my mother was a news/political junky and made me one too.She made me watch the Army-McCathry the hearings, explaining it to me, so a small child could understand.Much later,I worked on both of Nixon's winning presidential campaigns.We all knew WHY the lefties hated Nixon.

41 posted on 03/15/2004 5:30:53 PM PST by nopardons
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To: ntnychik
NIXON TARGETED KERRY by setting up a debate??
42 posted on 03/15/2004 5:33:19 PM PST by 11x62
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To: MD_Willington_1976; TommyDale
Where are John Kerry's FBI files?

Hillary is the logical place to start, isn't she?

43 posted on 03/15/2004 5:33:45 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: areafiftyone
Oh, trust me on this one; you can count on it coming out. Probably not "soon" however. I'd wait until after he is officially nominated at the convention and then pull out the stops. Truth be known, they probably have a lot of "goods" on his weird wife that would be interesting. But, something like that would have to be leaked to the media.
44 posted on 03/15/2004 5:34:19 PM PST by no dems
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To: ntnychik
One of the local sports disk jockies made a statement on his radio show today that there was a BOGUS picture of Kerry with Jane Fonda at an Anti War Rally being circulated on the Internet

I assume he is talking about the one that has been posted here numerous times

Anybody hear anything about this or any democrat effort to discredit it
45 posted on 03/15/2004 5:35:45 PM PST by uncbob
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To: nopardons
They hated him because he was an honorable man. He made mistakes, but he was an honorable man.
46 posted on 03/15/2004 5:36:18 PM PST by international american (DU trolls outsourced for free!!)
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To: international american
Nixon was a brilliant man. He was sacrificed my the Washington Post!

Nixon was a disaster for conservatives and his own ego set him up to be sandbagged by the Wash Post
47 posted on 03/15/2004 5:37:47 PM PST by uncbob
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To: 11x62
The NBC TV coverage said clean-cut looking John O'Neill was recruited to debate Kerry on the Dick Cavett show. O'Neill was shown at the White House being given an "attaboy" pep talk by President Nixon, with other aides present. Colson appears to have been the point man. The TV coverage showed excerpts of the O'Neill-Kerry "debate." O'Neill took issue with Kerry's charges of war crimes on the part of U.S. soldiers.
48 posted on 03/15/2004 5:38:33 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: uncbob
I guess we agree to disagree.
49 posted on 03/15/2004 5:41:12 PM PST by international american (DU trolls outsourced for free!!)
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To: international american
Agreed,no matter what the ill informed, so far right...they're left say.
50 posted on 03/15/2004 5:41:25 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
They were after Nixon, from the time he beat Helen G.Brown and they hated him for going after other damned pinkos, Fellow Travelers,and stinking Commies.Yeah you are right

I voted for Nixon BUT now I am convinced his going after the commies early in his career was just a means of obtaining publicity and getting elected in a GOP area and not motivated by any strong dislike of the commies that motivated Reagan

His and Kissinger's DETENTE was a disaster and his bringing Red China into the 20th century may still buites us severely in the future

In addition Nixon geared his 72 campaign entirely on his getting re-elected and copmpletely abandonned other GOP types up for re-election

If the democrats hadn't run McGovern a hell of a lot of conservatives would have stayed home
51 posted on 03/15/2004 5:44:14 PM PST by uncbob
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To: no dems
I'd wait until after he is officially nominated at the convention and then pull out the stops. Truth be known, they probably have a lot of "goods" on his weird wife that would be interesting. But, something like that would have to be leaked to the media.

And when he goes WAY down in the polls the democrats can pull a NJ drop him and run Hillary with little time left for the GOP to rake her over the coals

SCOTUS will probably negate it and then we will again hear all about the SCOUTUS stealing the election for the GOP
52 posted on 03/15/2004 5:47:18 PM PST by uncbob
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To: nopardons
I admire Nixon for several reasons. He grew up in a relatively poor family. He won a scholarship to Harvard, but his family could not support the balance. He graduated from college with honors, while working 30 hours a week to meet expenses. He went after the commies in Hollywood, and elsewhere. Yeah, he made mistakes, but I will tell you this, he never gave up on America, or the people! And he was a fighter till the day he died, just like my dad. An American original....where are they now??
53 posted on 03/15/2004 5:49:56 PM PST by international american (DU trolls outsourced for free!!)
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To: forward
I sure don't think this made Kerry look good--just the opposite.

You think this way because of the opinions you have already formed. The Left and many moderates will see it exactly the opposite way. They see Nixon as some sort of satan incarnate, and Kerry will gain stature in their eyes because Nixon labeled him.

54 posted on 03/15/2004 5:54:01 PM PST by Samwise (I am going to need to be sedated before this election is over.)
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To: All

Where are John Kerry's FBI files? Hillary is the logical place to start, isn't she? John Kerry do you remember fort marcey park?

55 posted on 03/15/2004 5:57:35 PM PST by al baby (Hope I don't get into trouble for this)
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To: uncbob
In my graduating class...Newton, Mass. 1972, only 6 students voted for Nixon. I was one, and have no regrets! McGovern was a commie....and what is Kerry, aside from a sociopath.
56 posted on 03/15/2004 5:58:57 PM PST by international american (DU trolls outsourced for free!!)
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To: international american
Yeah, he made mistakes, but I will tell you this, he never gave up on America, or the people!

Well, I was just a kid then, but I fell for the media libel. All these years later, Nixon has grown in my mind. The thing that strikes me most is that Nixon could've fought the trial and probably won. His family and friends wanted him to fight. But Nixon didn't want to put the country through the agony of an impeachment trial.

Contrast this with Slick Willy. In some sick way, I actually think he enjoyed having the world focused on his private parts. He certainly had no qualms about putting America through that circus.

Above himself, Nixon loved America.

Above all else, Clinton loves himself.

57 posted on 03/15/2004 6:05:11 PM PST by Samwise (I am going to need to be sedated before this election is over.)
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To: uncbob
Did you know Nixon personally? Have you ever read his books? Or are you just playing at being Miss Cleo?

FYI.........Richard Nixon was an avowed anti-Communist. He did NOT go after them,as you claim,to get himself elected. You have nothing at all to base your uneducated position on, but your own biased dislike (hatred?)of Nixon on.Hindsight may be 20/20, but in your case, it's more like 0/0 !

Did Nixon make mistakes? Of course he did. HE SHOULD HAVE BURNED THOSE DAMNED TAPES AND DUG HIS HEELS IN! But he was an honorable man.

You may not like some of the things he as president;neither do I.

Reagan has now been so mythologized,that I doubt you even know the truth/facts of his two terms as president.Reagan was a great president, but so far less of a Conservative, than the MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN THOUERS,here, would have the rest of believe.

Presidents "gear" their election/reelection campaigns to ( GASP, shock, oh the horror of it all ! ) win!

How good is your memory?How clearly do you remember those times?

I have a superior memory.I remember those days very clearly!

Don't post assumptions, suppositions,nor fantasies of your own imaginatgion. None of that holds up, when facts are so easy to find, that blows your musing out of the water.

58 posted on 03/15/2004 6:05:52 PM PST by nopardons
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To: 11x62; uncbob; al baby; FreeRep; Samwise; areafiftyone; Servant of the 9; My2Cents; ...
More Nixon/Kerry/O'Neill info on this site, Part 3. While you're there, check out the great pics in the photo galleries that go with each of the 7 sections. http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/061703.shtml
59 posted on 03/15/2004 6:09:10 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: international american
Nixon was a fighter FOR America and a true anti-Communist fighter.

He was far from a perfect human beings,but there was much to admire about him.

He doesn't deserve his memory besmirched, by the delusional rantings and lies, made by a CINO.

60 posted on 03/15/2004 6:09:33 PM PST by nopardons
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