[Old Student]

There is a difference between general ignorance, ignorance of certain facts, and stupidity. I'm seeing quite a lot of all three, but all I can do anything about is the middle one. I'm trying to help some folks see the few facts they missed, and are therefore ignorant of. Anyone who wants to take it as a general condemnation of their intelligence is welcome to do so, if they so choose.

You seem to have missed Torquemada, the Nazis, the Albigensian campaigns in France, both the Reformation and Counter-Reformation, the 30 Years War, both the Puritans and Pilgrims, and quite a few others. It has been only in the few years after His crucifixion, and rather recently that most Christians have spent more time trying to be Christ-like and less time trying to insure their neighbors were toeing the line. There are still a whole lot of them, including some members of my church, who are in that mode. Which is kind of silly of them, as the reason my church is based in Utah is because of others who can't seem to remember Christ's message. If more people worried about the beam in their own eye, they'd be less inclined to point out the mote in others eyes.

In case you hadn't noticed, Gaza and the West Bank are in Palestine. I'm going to say this one more time, and a little more explicitly: There are Muslims who are more Christ-like than many so-called Christians, and there are so-called Christians who are more Satan-like than the worst of the Muslims. There are also quite a few Christians whom I'm sure Jesus is quite happy with, including those who got killed this past week, who were Baptists. Condemning all of ANY people because of the actions of a few is sheer stupidity. It is equally stupid to think that all of any people are good because a few are, but I've met quite a few Muslims, so I think I have seen a fairly good sample. The Muslims have heard of Jesus, btw, they just don't think he's the Son of God. They call him Issa, usually, and consider him one of the old-time prophets. They think his message was ignored and lost by the Jews, and misconstrued by his followers who became the Christians.

I still say the Turks are good examples of Muslims. They focus on the parts of the Koran that apply to now, and not to the early days on the Arabian Penninsula, unlike some people.

And as far as my being a good student or not, I don't have to be a good student to know a hatchet job when I see one. Let's see, here, What Would Jesus Do? Teach, or just complain about the beliefs of others?

[ovrtaxt]

It has been only in the few years after His crucifixion, and rather recently that most Christians have spent more time trying to be Christ-like and less time trying to insure their neighbors were toeing the line.

Consider the concept that regular, good, decent people don't make the news. They usually don't make the history books either. You can't possibly believe that statement. There have been large numbers of Jesus's followers who have remained faithful to His teachings throughout history.

[ovrtaxt]

There are Muslims who are more Christ-like than many so-called Christians, and there are so-called Christians who are more Satan-like than the worst of the Muslims. There are also quite a few Christians whom I'm sure Jesus is quite happy with, including those who got killed this past week, who were Baptists. Condemning all of ANY people because of the actions of a few is sheer stupidity. It is equally stupid to think that all of any people are good because a few are, but I've met quite a few Muslims, so I think I have seen a fairly good sample.

Read my previous posts again. I condemn the religion of Islam. Not Muslims. They are simply the primary victims of a suicide cult.

Now terrorists, that's got to be dealt with differently. They are deceived, they think they do God a service, but they must be eliminated for the protection and continuance of civilization. If they get saved first, then good. And the church is reaching out to them with that hope. But the preservation of humanity is too important to hope that they find Christ and do nothing in the meantime while innocents die.

[ovrtaxt]

The Muslims have heard of Jesus, btw, they just don't think he's the Son of God. They call him Issa, usually, and consider him one of the old-time prophets. They think his message was ignored and lost by the Jews, and misconstrued by his followers who became the Christians.

Yes, they have heard of a false depiction of Jesus. But that's not the real Jesus. If He was just a prophet, then He was a false one because He stated that He was the Way the Truth and the Life. And you don't come to the Father except through Him. So was He a liar?

[ovrtaxt]

I still say the Turks are good examples of Muslims. They focus on the parts of the Koran that apply to now, and not to the early days on the Arabian Penninsula, unlike some people.

If parts don't apply to now, then it obviously isn't divinely inspired. Absolute Truth is transcendent.

[ovrtaxt]

What Would Jesus Do? Teach, or just complain about the beliefs of others?

I hope you have learned something, as I have from you. I'm being sincere.

I'm not complaining about anything, but Islam victimizes billions of people, and it will be crushed by the Gospel of Jesus. He plans to set multitudes of Muslims free from the threats of Allah the moon god.