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To: Old Student
What Would Jesus Do? Teach, or just complain about the beliefs of others?

I hope you have learned something, as I have from you. I'm being sincere.

I'm not complaining about anything, but Islam victimizes billions of people, and it will be crushed by the Gospel of Jesus. He plans to set multitudes of Muslims free from the threats of Allah the moon god.

169 posted on 03/21/2004 6:07:44 PM PST by ovrtaxt ( Communism has bowed the knee to Jesus. *** Allah is next.)
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To: ovrtaxt
"I'm not complaining about anything, but Islam victimizes billions of people, and it will be crushed by the Gospel of Jesus. He plans to set multitudes of Muslims free from the threats of Allah the moon god."

I'll accept that you are sincere, easily. So are most of the other people here, inclusive of those who are spouting total nonsense. I don't doubt that the folks who created the website you referred me to are sincere, also. I'm trying to help you understand that Islam is not victimizing billions of people, that it is some people who claim to be of Islam that are doing the victimization. Do you see the difference? Torquemada and his ilk were supported by at least part of the established Christian church at the time (a rather large, important part, in fact), but they were not following the teachings of Jesus. They were not Christians, even though they were running the Western branch of the Christian Church of the time.

It is quite possible to make the case that we don't really know what Jesus taught, because he left us no written records of his testmony. We have it only through the testimony of others. The Koran is in the same boat, really. Mohammed did not leave a written record of his teachings, either. His teachings were recorded after his death, also. I think that the folks who recorded his works either weren't quite as careful about what they recorded, or their work was corrupted more, than Jesus's words, and that has been confirmed to me in prayer, but it isn't something I can prove objectively.

One of the historical facts that I've found is that Ayesha, the youngest of Mohammed's wives,and his daughter, Fatima, were two of those who provided many of the Hadiths that were recorded after his death. You won't find much of what they had to say, however, as later "authorities" despised all women, and changed or discarded much of what they said. They kept only that which was also testified to by other, male, witnesses. Within a hundred years of Mohammed's death, Islam was changed considerably from what he recited to his people, as they absorbed the customs of groups they conquered, kept those they liked, and discarded those they didn't like. Remember that comment of mine about their culture being sick? Mohammed tried to correct that, but he failed there, too.
170 posted on 03/21/2004 6:47:06 PM PST by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF (Ret.))
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To: ovrtaxt
Oh, I'm getting really tired, forgot to mention that I'm not so sure that a whole lot of Muslims will be set free of Allah anytime soon. Things could well get worse than they are for all good people, Muslim, Christian, Jew, and pagan. I do believe that all this is a battle between Good and Evil, but I've read the Book of Revelation, too. Things may well get a LOT worse, before they get better. There will be a time when every knee shall bow to Him, but there are going to be some tough times before then. That may be a long ways off, or it may be really soon. The signs, as they say, are all around, but that's been the case for quite a while, too. We don't operate on the same time scale as God does, so I'm not holding my breath waiting, but I'm not certain I've got a while to go, either. Have a good one, perhaps we can continue tomorrow evening. Or maybe not, as I'm supposed to be bailing my wife out the hospital sometime tomorrow, too. Much to do in the meantime.
171 posted on 03/21/2004 6:55:48 PM PST by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF (Ret.))
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