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Kerry's pal (and liar)
Washington Times - Inside politics ^ | March 12 2004 | Greg Pierce

Posted on 03/13/2004 2:23:02 PM PST by kahoutek

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:13:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Presumed Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry says his credibility was not affected by his previous association with a man who fabricated his military credentials while serving as executive director of a prominent antiwar group that included Mr. Kerry, CNSNews.com reports.


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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1971; 2004; alhubbard; blackpanthers; credibility; kerry; marcmorano; meetthepress; mtp; nbc; vietnamwar; vvaw; warcriminal
Keep hammerin'
1 posted on 03/13/2004 2:23:02 PM PST by kahoutek
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To: kahoutek
"I think our credibility was tremendous," Mr. Kerry told CNSNews.com's Marc Morano

Whatever you say, Ketchup Boy.

2 posted on 03/13/2004 2:30:04 PM PST by John Thornton
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To: kahoutek
Ka Ching. Keep it up!
3 posted on 03/13/2004 2:31:45 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: kahoutek
'Round the bowl, and down the hole........spin kerry spin!

LLS
4 posted on 03/13/2004 2:34:51 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (We point out Kerry's record and the facts, and they just THINK it's attack politics.)
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To: kahoutek
Kerry was duped by Hubbard as easily as he duped his first and second Sugar Mamas.
5 posted on 03/13/2004 2:35:51 PM PST by mass55th
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To: silverleaf
"there was no record of Mr. Hubbard having ever served in Vietnam. In addition, Mr. Hubbard was not shot down as he said and did not receive a Purple Heart for injuries suffered during battle."

I've met a few of these jerks and nothing, nothing pisses me off more than this.

6 posted on 03/13/2004 2:36:45 PM PST by kahoutek ((A conservative is a liberal who's been mugged))
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To: kahoutek
That's why I laugh out loud everytime I hear Kerry say that the President is "running away from his record!!"

Kerry is going to have to put an addition onto his website's "D-Bunker!!" LOLOL!

7 posted on 03/13/2004 2:37:06 PM PST by SpinyNorman
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To: kahoutek
Yeah, right.


http://W-04.com

8 posted on 03/13/2004 2:40:47 PM PST by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign visit W-04.com for FREE STICKERS)
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To: All
Once a flake, always a flake.
9 posted on 03/13/2004 3:28:06 PM PST by Loyal Buckeye ((Kerry is a flake))
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To: John Thornton
Kerry's not bashful about bragging on himself.
10 posted on 03/13/2004 5:40:59 PM PST by Carolinamom (Currently re-programming my thinking to positive mode.)
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To: kahoutek; Hon; backhoe
ping
11 posted on 03/13/2004 8:37:15 PM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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The reporter sort of missed the rest of the story:

Kerry Lied In Press Conference Where He Refused To Apologize For Calling Republicans Liars
Compiled | March 12, 2004 | Hon

Posted on 03/12/2004 2:03:30 PM EST by Hon

Yesterday, John Kerry held a press conference on Capitol Hill where he adamantly refused to apologize for calling his GOP critics "the most crooked, you know, lying group I've ever seen."

However, in the course of this brief press conference Kerry told at least two lies himself:

Kerry Says Credibility Not Damaged By Former Comrade's Lie
By Melanie Hunter
CNSNews.com Deputy Managing Editor
March 11, 2004

(CNSNews.com) - Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry Thursday said his credibility was not affected by his previous association with a man who fabricated his military credentials while serving as executive director of a prominent anti-war group that included Kerry.

"I think our credibility was tremendous," Kerry told CNSNews.com's Marc Morano during a press conference on Capitol Hill Thursday. Kerry was surrounded at the press conference by Democratic members of the U.S. Senate.

Al Hubbard appeared with Kerry in 1971 on NBC's Meet the Press , was introduced as a former decorated Air Force captain who had spent two years in Vietnam and was wounded in the process. In reality, Hubbard had lied about his military rank and other issues, as later investigations revealed.

Kerry said he hasn't spoken to Hubbard since the week of April 19, 1971 , "and everybody was disappointed by what they learned back in 1971. To his credit, [Hubbard] did serve his nation. He had simply exaggerated his particular position. But nobody knew it at the time, and those things happen."

Source

It's clear that Kerry lied on at least two counts.

Hubbard did much more than misrepresent his rank. Hubbard claimed to be a pilot, to have held the rank of captain, to have seen atrocities and to have been wounded while in Vietnam. None of this was true. There is no record that Hubbard ever went to Vietnam. He was not wounded.

But at the time even, John Kerry defended Hubbard, citing the confession as proof of Hubbard's integrity. "Al owned up to the rank question," Kerry said. "He thought it was time to tell the truth, and he did it because he thought it would be best for the organization." Source

The funny thing is Kerry even confronted Hubbard with this information--during a showdown at at VVAW meeting in July 1971--which is after the date Kerry now claims he last spoke to Hubbard.

From Gerald Nicosia's book, Home To War pg. 211:

In St. Louis in July , two months after Dewev Canvon III, VVAW held its most turbulent national meeting to date. Many remember it as the meeting where John Kerry and Al Hubhard went head to head . Kerry made a long speech punctuated at frequent intervals bv the demand: "Who is Al Hubbard?" Voicing his opposition to Hubbard's various political and social agendas, Kerry even challenged Hubbard to prove he was a Vietnam veteran. Feeling supplanted, and weakened politically by the impending resignation of arch supporter Mike Oliver (who was about to leave for California as a field organizer), Hubbard "freaked out," screaming insults at Kerry from the opposite end oft he hall. Each time Kerry would denounce his authenticity, Hubbard would bounce up out of his chair, holding his back and grimacing, as if in great pain, and at one point he even pulled up his shirt to exhibit his scar.

Kerry wrote a rave review for Nicosia's book. He had a book party for it in his Senate office. So he is aware what is in it. It looks like Kerry is lying when he now claims to have had not further contact after April 1971.

It is certainly clear that Kerry lied about the extent of Hubbard'd misrepresentations about himself. But Kerry seems to lie about a lot of things.


12 posted on 03/13/2004 8:46:49 PM PST by Hon
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See also:

Kerry's Mentor: Black Panther And Phony Vietnam Vet, Al Hubbard

13 posted on 03/13/2004 8:51:03 PM PST by Hon
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