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To: js1138; Elsie
Faith is believing without evidence . . .

Perhaps by your definition. But faith cannot exist without evidence of some kind. There must be a proposition before faith can make it's leap. Faith is always based on a propsiton, a hypothesis, if you will. And a hypothesis is normally rooted in the intelligent world - a world that is well-organized and, to my reckoning, real.

. . . the standard interpretation of "Thou shalt not put the Lord thy God to the test," is that you cannot prove or disprove the existence of God, and it is sinful to try.

Now that's a new twist. Use a passage of Scripture that acknowleges the existence of God to cobble up some moral prohibition against proving the existence of God. Do you realize how preposterous your statement is? What? Is Scripture in this case an authoritative source for you?

591 posted on 03/18/2004 9:07:16 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Whether scripture is authoritative or not is beside the point. If you are a believer you are prohibited from asserting that this occurrance or that occurance will prove or disprove the existence of God. In short, you are prohibited from using the scientific method to prove or disprove the existence of God.

By extension, science and its findings are irrelevant to the question of the existence of God.
594 posted on 03/18/2004 10:44:12 AM PST by js1138
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Perhaps by your definition. But faith cannot exist without evidence of some kind. There must be a proposition before faith can make it's leap.

this evidence is generall provided by witnesses. But you are not allowed to try to replicate a miracle or assert that the absense of divine intervention proves anything.

In short, you are not allowed to use scientific reasoning to prove or disprove the existence of God.

595 posted on 03/18/2004 10:48:53 AM PST by js1138
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