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To: Fester Chugabrew
I would maintain there are specific reasons - in fact you've pointed at least one of them out - why water is not found throughout the universe. You've just given another example of intelligent design.

At that level of reasoning, any non-chaotic phenomenon is an example of intelligent design. Sorry; I dispute that simple non-randomness requires an intelligence to create it. Ice crystallizes in beautiful forms from water vapor. It does so by following simple physical laws. Regardless of where you think the physical laws came from, the operation of those laws on a random system creates order from disorder; and in their operation there is no design. Therefore, it is clear that the creation of order does not require intelligence; it simply requires some regularity in the behavior of the system. And there is no evidence that the regularity in the behavior of the universe is designed.

What is the relationship between design and intelligence?

Design could be stupid. Think Edsel.

470 posted on 03/16/2004 3:44:28 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor
Therefore, it is clear that the creation of order does not require intelligence . . .

If you mean "intelligence" as necessarily originating from a personal source I can understand why you would propose this, although it is not necessarily "clear." If you mean "intelligence" as it relates to design, then I beg to differ.

Design could be stupid. Think Edsel.

I was hoping you would consider the question more seriously and expound a bit further than this. If anything, your example only bespeaks your personal bias against a human product that, regardless of its deficiencies, is another clear example where intelligence HAD to be exerted through a personal agent to achieve a desired result.

476 posted on 03/16/2004 3:53:39 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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