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To: DannyTN
Your list doesn't accomplish much. I could give you a list of Greek discoveries (logic, geometry, the size of the earth, etc.) from the days when the Greeks believed in Zeus and the other gods on Mt. Olympus. What of it? Want to give Zeus the credit?

The point I'm making is that the Olympian gods had nothing to do with the discoveries of the Greek scientists. And no one in his right mind would claim otherwise. Similarly, now that the West is mostly Christian, scientists mostly come from a Christian background. Why should Jehovah get any credit for Newton's work if you won't give Zeus credit for Aristotle's work?

118 posted on 03/13/2004 7:29:48 PM PST by PatrickHenry (A compassionate evolutionist.)
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To: PatrickHenry
"The point I'm making is that the Olympian gods had nothing to do with the discoveries of the Greek scientists. "

No. The only point that you've made is that belief in Greek gods didn't hinder scientific inquiry either. The point was made in this thread that ID hinders scientific inquiry. Between my list of Christian scientists and your list of Greek discoveries, I'd say we've proven that religion in general doesn't limit scientific inquiry. However there are particular religions such where scientific inquiry is shunned or considered irrelevant. Christianity and the proponents of ID are not one of those.

Jehovah doesn't get credit for Newton's work, Newton does. That Newton was both Jehovah's work and was studying Jehovah's work, does not matter. Anymore than Aristotle, thinking he was Zeus's work when he was actually Jehovah's.

125 posted on 03/13/2004 7:41:46 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: PatrickHenry
The point of listing scientists who believe in a Creator is no more than, and no less than, a way to substantiate the fact that one can hold creationism to be a fact and still be an instrument for scientific progress. That seems to offend a handful of folks who assume the Theory of Evolution to be above challenge.

How much theological baggage did these guys bring to the table? Very little, if any, I suppose. What purpose would it serve?

127 posted on 03/13/2004 7:44:06 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: PatrickHenry
The point I'm making is that the Olympian gods had nothing to do with the discoveries of the Greek scientists.

Not the Olympians per se, but certainly gods, resulting in architectonic and systematic thought. Greek thinking is permeated with the ideas of cosmos or universe. The divine name changes from Zeus to Logos for the Stoics. And the Stoicism was a favorite of Enlightenment thought.

133 posted on 03/13/2004 7:57:08 PM PST by cornelis
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