[international american]

"Leaving the effects of regulations and lawsuits aside for now, If we want to have a stable society again, what we need to do is reduce personal and corporate income taxes and add the equivalent in commodity taxes. The net tax burden on US citizens and residents would not change, so it will be a tax shift and not a tax cut. But for the first time people who bring imports to the market will contribute to the cost of having that market there. The products and services made in this country will be more competitive, economic stability will return and costs will go down, and EVERYONE will be PAYING THEIR FARE SHARE!

Man, you are smart!! I guess you and I will be raped for saying so:)

[AreaMan]

Actually, I heard that India will be petitioning for admission into the Union as the 51st state.

[rudypoot]

Actually your first mistake is that you are calling outsourcing a problem. It isn't. Flame away.

[GeekDejure]

Go here to permanently fix the income tax problem.

http://futurepointe.com/income-tax/marie/order_tb.html

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[XBob]

1 - " none of these costs are born on products and services that are sold here as long as those things are NOT made by any US citizens or residents. This is outrageous! "

So succinct and so true. And the free traitors don't begin to understand this.

[BfloGuy]

..........TAX PRODUCTS ........... NOT PEOPLE!!!

Only people can pay taxes. You can change the basis for the tax assessment, but it will still be people who pay it.

And yes, people (American people) will still pay for the tariffs. They'll pay because the price of the product is higher after the tariff has been levied.

I am certainly no fan of the current income tax system, but I just don't see what this would accomplish.

[A. Pole]

An analogy may make it easier to see. Suppose you have a big department store in a town that was very popular. This store offered a place for the local clothing and goods suppliers to sell their products, and in return asked for a 30% cut for the store. Now this system worked fine for many years, then one day some suppliers came in from out of town and, because of a quirk in the contracts, didn’t have to pay the store their 30% cut. At first these out-of-towners only made a few lower quality, inexpensive products and nobody was very concerned about them. After a while though, these out-of-towners started to improve. They slowly got into the higher priced and higher quality products and because they didn’t have to give the store a cut, they could beat everyone on price. The local suppliers worked feverishly to compete by cutting costs, then wages, then staffs, then products, but they couldn’t overcome the advantage the out-of-towners had on pricing. Then the store told the remaining local suppliers that they had to increase their cut to the store to 40% to keep it open. Soon the local suppliers were so financially weak that the out-of-towners could get any business they went after and the local suppliers started to disappear. In the end, the out-of-town suppliers had nearly all the business, and the store went bankrupt.

Free trade bump.

[Shermy]

Taxes, regulations, tastes, etc. are each irrelevant to the outsoucing issue.

IE, if taxes were 0% or 50%, it doesn't matter.

Modern outsourcing is due to differential wage rates - just one cost of business. To decrease that cost jobs are outsourced to lower wage areas, or illegals and mass immigration is insourced to depress wages at home for jobs that can't be imported.

It's a reality, it's govt. policy.

[TaxRelief]

Isn't "offshoring" a compound word?

http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/o/o0042200.html

[William Terrell]

I may agree if only those commodities from overseas, and not domestically produced commodities, carried the commodity tax.

[NoControllingLegalAuthority]

There is no such thing as free trade. Many of us have demonstrated that until we are blue in the face. Free trade means we can freely sell our stuff in foreign markets as they can here. We can't because they will not let us!

Yes, the United States, state and local governments impose costs on business. Many of these are fundamental health and safety costs. Our buildings are inspected during construction to make sure they don't fall down. We have to have fire alarms and lighted exit signs and sprinkler systems.

We have stringent electrical codes to avoid hazardous situations that could electrocute people and/or burn down buildings and houses.

We require two exits so people aren't trapped and trampled getting out in an emergency.

What you foolish free traitors don't realize is many foreign countries place ZERO value on human health and life. NO FREE COUNTRY PLACING VALUE ON HEALTH AND LIFE CAN COMPETE WITH THOSE TREATING HUMAN WORKERS AS EXPENDABLE.

The value of the lives of human beings in China and India is nearly zero to their governments and businesses.

You people who think the export of all manufacturing from America is just fine and dandy are dangerously misled and have spent too much time with your noses in textbooks.

America is racing to the economic bottom and you are too blind to see it.

[Henchman]

Agree - adjust taxes on corporations that claim to avoid taxes (really evade) by setting up shams in off shore no0n tax countries IE Bermuda. These folks channel income to other entities off shore and thus avoid both corp and personal taxes while W2 and 1099 Taxpayers foot the bill.

[quadrant]

Your argument is logical, but far too many people have an emotional and political investment in taxing income. In fact, this investment is an article of faith so strong as to take on religious overtones amoung those who believe in a redistribution of income.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"If we want to have a stable society again, what we need to do is reduce personal and corporate income taxes and add the equivalent in commodity taxes."

So, your solution is to stop stealing from my right pocket, and begin stealing from the left one?

In effect, you want foreign companies to come and build factories on US soil, thus working within the advantage of your system...the Toyota USA model...bringing about the inevitable: rather than employing foreigners overseas to gain a sustained competitive advantage in the world stage, we will instead sell our native market to foreign corporations, who, by virtue of their ability to sell their wares to the rest of the world unemcumbered by competition from US manufacturers, will have far greater financial resources than US industries and the wherewithal to build factories State side.

End result, rather than employing foreigners to work for us, we will be employed by foreigners.

Yeah...that will save America.

[Happy2BMe]

Offshoring ping.