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Afghans Insist Escape Routes Still Open
AP ^ | 12 March 2004 | ELLEN KNICKMEYER

Posted on 03/12/2004 2:40:50 PM PST by Cap Huff

SPIN BOLDAK, Afghanistan - Despite a crackdown involving tens of thousands of troops and a pledge by President Gen. Pervez Musharraf to do all he can in the hunt for Osama bin Laden, Afghans say a steady stream of Taliban and al-Qaida fugitives are finding a safe haven on Pakistan's side of the 2,000-mile border.

The Afghan border chief gestures toward a fresh spray of bullet holes across his pickup truck, then points toward the place he says the Taliban attackers came from: Pakistan.

"See the trees? They started from that border post," said Palawan, his head shaved. Afterward, "the vehicles came from there, and took the Taliban away."

Sealing the border is vital if a promised spring offensive by American troops is to succeed in its main goal, crushing Taliban resistance and capturing al-Qaida leaders like bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, both believed in hiding somewhere along the porous frontier.

The U.S. military has described the strategy as a "hammer and anvil" approach, with Pakistani troops moving into semiautonomous tribal areas on their side of the border, and Afghans and American forces sweeping the forbidding terrain on the other.

But Palawan and other Afghan security officials say they aren't convinced, insisting Pakistan's security and intelligence services are rife with Taliban and al-Qaida sympathizers.

"They are living there, they are coming to do the terror attacks, and they are going back," Palawan said, gun at his side as he drives along the barren border.

Pakistani officials scoff at the charges and say they are doing everything they can to arrest Taliban and al-Qaida fugitives.

"This is nonsense," Pakistan Information Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed said in Islamabad. "We are fighting against terrorists, not sheltering them."

Pakistan can point to an impressive record: It has arrested more than 500 al-Qaida suspects since the Sept. 11 attacks and it has recently deployed 70,000 troops to the tribal regions of Waziristan.

But Palawan is not alone in his suspicions, and Afghans have not forgotten the strong support Pakistan gave to the former Taliban regime before Musharraf abandoned them in favor of the United States just after the attacks on New York and Washington. Pakistan supplied money, arms and shelter to Islamic guerrillas, including the Taliban, during the guerrilla campaign in the 1980s against Afghanistan's then-Soviet occupiers.

"Without Pakistan, the Taliban would be finished. Without the Taliban, al-Qaida would be finished," Gen. Khan Mohammed, regional commander of the Afghan militia, said in Kandahar, capital of the southern province that includes Spin Boldak.

Some Afghans say Pakistan's security and intelligence services make a distinction between turning away al-Qaida members - many of them Arabs foreign to the region - and turning away their former Taliban allies seeking shelter. "I don't think there's been a fundamental shift in the perception of the Taliban in the Pakistan military," said Vikram Parekh, an analyst with the International Crisis Group in Kabul, the Afghan capital. "That's going to be the big problem," - whether Pakistan's military "draws a line between al-Qaida and the Taliban."

Afghan intelligence officials say they have intercepted phone conversations from Taliban commanders in Quetta, the largest Pakistani city near the southern border. Attackers have maintained a steady series of rocket, small-arms and bomb assaults on Afghan and U.S. posts along the border and elsewhere in Afghanistan. Pakistan prohibits the 13,000 U.S. troops in this country from crossing into its territory, but says it is rigorously hunting down terror suspects there.

The bullet holes in his pickup-truck door come from a Taliban attack 10 days ago, said Palawan, whose nom de guerre means "strongman."

Later, he showed the graves of what he said were 15 of 45 Taliban killed in an attack in June. Burial flags - green, white or embroidered with flowers - and ceremonially broken dishes marked visits to the alleged Taliban graves by loved ones.

Afghan border officials said the June battle began when alleged Taliban ambushed an Afghan official. Palawan said he watched the night of the attack as vehicles came from the Pakistani side of the border to retrieve Taliban survivors.

Later, he said Afghans laid out the bodies of the Taliban dead - young- to middle-aged men in bushy beards and turbans, with old weapons - on the border.

People from the Pakistan side collected all but the 15, he said.

Pakistan dismisses the Afghan account of the battle, saying there was no cross-border involvement from its side.

But immediately after the battle, Pakistan began fortifying 90 miles of border stretching south and north from Spin Boldak.

Over eight months, Pakistan border Col. Abdul Basit began installing berms, barbed wire, security lighting, video cameras, and far more guards along the border and checkpoints leading to it.

Shoot-to-kill orders went out to Pakistan border guards for anyone seen crossing illicitly.

The Spin Boldak crossing, opening to the Pakistan town of Chaman, today stands as a showcase for visiting dignitaries.

On Friday, when The Associated Press made a scheduled visit, sentries armed with rifles stood astride the mud berms, staring resolutely into Afghanistan.

"If not 100 percent, 99 percent we have been able to seal" Basit said of the border area, though he acknowledged "undesirable elements" have simply shifted to more remote, less policed mountains to the north.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; alqaeda; binladen; hammerandanvil; osamabinladen; pakistan; southasia; taliban; waziristan

1 posted on 03/12/2004 2:40:50 PM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Dog; Coop; swarthyguy; Boot Hill; Angelus Errare; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Prodigal Son; ...
FYI
2 posted on 03/12/2004 2:41:45 PM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Cap Huff
Typical AP. Emphasize the negative.
3 posted on 03/12/2004 2:43:00 PM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Cap Huff
Cap you trying to ruin my party mood??
4 posted on 03/12/2004 2:44:09 PM PST by Dog
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To: Cap Huff
Yeah, but I have the nasty suspicion it's true, given all the scumbags up in that part of the world. We need to delouse the whole area. permanently.
5 posted on 03/12/2004 2:44:38 PM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: Dog
Nope. Cheers!!!
6 posted on 03/12/2004 2:46:52 PM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Cap Huff; Boot Hill; swarthyguy; Coop
Cap......here is to the video of Binny getting his lice check up!!!
7 posted on 03/12/2004 2:49:13 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog; Cap Huff
I suppose airstrikes within the NWFP would be out of the question, yes?
8 posted on 03/12/2004 2:49:59 PM PST by Angelus Errare
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To: Cap Huff

9 posted on 03/12/2004 2:51:42 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Dog
I want to see that video so bad!
10 posted on 03/12/2004 2:54:31 PM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Angelus Errare
MOAB it.
11 posted on 03/12/2004 2:54:43 PM PST by Dog
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To: Angelus Errare
I'm in no position to know what's planned or cleared, but I am certain that there is much that we're not being told in open sources.
12 posted on 03/12/2004 2:58:14 PM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Cap Huff
Unfortunately, the Pakistanis on the ground cannot be trusted to cooperate. Large numbers have been bought off or are otherwise sympathetic to the Taliban/Al Qaeda. As much as Musharraf may want to help, he is fairly impotent in that region of Pakistan.
13 posted on 03/12/2004 3:32:19 PM PST by Azzurri
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To: Dog; Coop; swarthyguy; Cap Huff; Angelus Errare; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Prodigal Son
The following place names from the above article that can be located on the map below:

Kandahar, AF   -   Spin Boldak, AF   -   Chaman, PK   -   Quetta, PK

A more global perspective of this region can be seen on this map of Afghanistan.

--Boot Hill

14 posted on 03/12/2004 3:37:03 PM PST by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!)
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To: Dog; Coop; swarthyguy; Cap Huff; Angelus Errare; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Prodigal Son
I found this really quite good map that shows the extents of each of the seven tribal areas that make up FATA or Federally Administered Tribal Areas (e.g., South Waziristan). Technically, the tribal areas do not constitute a province, as such. The map also shows the 13 districts of the NWFP (North West Frontier Province).

Note that the "North West Frontier" is different than the "Northern Areas" (q.v., below). The rest of the country consists of three additional (large) provinces:   Balochistan (in the southwest), Sindh (in the southeast) and Punjab (in central Pakistan).


--Boot Hill

15 posted on 03/12/2004 7:07:19 PM PST by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!)
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To: Boot Hill
Great Map. Northern areas are basically Kashmir.
16 posted on 03/15/2004 9:54:45 AM PST by swarthyguy
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To: sanatanDharmi
Are you saying that I'm living a fantasy? If so, how so?
18 posted on 03/15/2004 10:26:11 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: sanatanDharmi
I don't have a great deal of time at the moment to debate any points here (and I have to say that I don't come to FR to debate or dispute or argue --- I come to be informed, to inform, to share information, and to learn from others).

However, I must say that many of us who have been watching the events along the border of Pakistan and Afghanistan are not under any illusions about Pakistan being a "U.S. friend" or totally ignorant of the equivocal actions concerning al-Qaeda and the Taliban . . . and I know of no one here who thinks that A.Q. Khan worked independently of the Pakistan military and government. Even more so, I don't think people like Rumsfeld, or Wolfowitz, or Rice, or GWB are naive about what's going on (or not going on as the case may be). Does that sound like a fantasy to you?
20 posted on 03/15/2004 10:57:57 AM PST by Cap Huff
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