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New law to ban swords
The Herald Sun(Australia) ^ | 09mar04 | Peter Mickelburough

Posted on 03/12/2004 12:09:38 PM PST by neverdem

New law to ban swords Peter Mickelburough, state politics reporter 09mar04

SWORDS will be outlawed from July under new laws to curb the growing use of the weapons in street brawls.

Police Minister Andre Haermeyer said the ban would help police overcome a culture of young people arming themselves with swords. "For most people running around the street carrying swords there is absolutely no reason for them to be carrying those weapons," he said yesterday.

From July, anyone found possessing or selling a sword without a permit will face up to six months' jail and fines of up to $12,000.

Existing sword owners must surrender their weapons to police, sell them to a licensed dealer or apply to the Chief Commissioner for specific approval.

Collectors and people with legitimate cultural, religious or military reasons to own swords will be exempted from the ban, but must store them under lock and key and have a burglar alarm.

The sword ban follows a string of recent attacks and a regulatory impact statement undertaken by the State Government last year.

Last week, a 13-year-old boy was arrested and charged after allegedly charging police with a sword near Castlemaine, in central Victoria.

A 21-year-old man had his hand severed by a samurai sword in a confrontation between 40 men in the Fitzroy Gardens a fortnight ago -- the second brawl involving swords in 24 hours.

Huy Huynh, 19, was chased from the Salt nightclub and hacked to death nearby in July 2002 by a mob using samurai swords and machetes.

The new laws will make it illegal to sell swords to anyone who does not have a permit.

Sword sellers will have to keep a register of buyers' details and make it available for police to inspect.

Mr Haermeyer said groups such as highland dancers, historic re-enactment groups, bonafide collectors and people with family heirlooms could apply for an exemption from the licensing services branch of Victoria Police.

"Legitimate sword owners understand the importance of ensuring that their swords do not fall into the wrong hands," he said.

"The vast majority of the community would say, 'Look, there's no place for people just being able to go out there and buy these things and carry them around the street'."

Mr Haermeyer said the exact definition of a sword under the new regulations was still being considered.

He said machetes would remain a controlled weapon, requiring a person to have a legitimate reason for carrying them.

The Government is also looking at bans on some other weapons, such as crossbows, and greater restriction on the sale of prohibited and regulated weapons at weekend markets.

Mr Haermeyer warned that police would be actively hunting for knives and swords after being given new powers and 480 metal detectors late last year, allowing them to search people they reasonably suspected were carrying weapons.

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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; machete; sword
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To: neverdem
When you outlaw swords only outlaws will own them.
101 posted on 03/12/2004 4:09:55 PM PST by Jaded
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To: xrp
And what might be banned after that???

"There are no guns on the island."


102 posted on 03/12/2004 4:09:55 PM PST by Fedora
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To: jscd3
"What about pointed sticks?"
103 posted on 03/12/2004 4:11:51 PM PST by Redcloak ("Aye...And if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon." -Capt. Montgomery Scott, Starfleet, ret.)
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To: Nick Danger
WHAT'S all this I hear about a law to ban FORDS?

LOL! I wonder what Father Guido Sarducci would have to add on that subject? "You know, I don't agree with a'banning Fords, but you know what they could do, they should'a import more Italian cars. . ."

104 posted on 03/12/2004 4:23:53 PM PST by Fedora
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To: feinswinesuksass; HangFire
This whole thing read like a satire. Unbelievable.

105 posted on 03/12/2004 4:33:23 PM PST by AnnaZ (I hate Times New Roman... and it's all Mel Gibson's fault!)
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To: Blue Highway
Check this out.

They want to ban s words.

Well how about sabres? It began with a bloody S!!

106 posted on 03/12/2004 6:18:51 PM PST by perfect stranger ("Don't shoot – I'm Che! I'm worth more to you alive than dead!" Che Guevara October 1967)
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To: Peter J. Huss
No no. There can be only one.

Duncan McLeod of the Clan McLeod

107 posted on 03/12/2004 6:28:11 PM PST by softengine (Life is like a roll of toilet paper.....The closer you get to the end, the faster it goes.)
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To: neverdem
what's next? banning baseball bats, cricket stumps, rolling pins, croquet mallets?
108 posted on 03/12/2004 6:39:52 PM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: Fedora
"Know, O Prince, that between the years when the oceans drank Atlantis and
the gleaming cities, and the rise of the Sons of Aryas, there was
an Age undreamed of, when shining kingdoms lay spread across the world
like blue mantles beneath the stars - Nemedia, Ophir, Brythunia,Hyperborea,
Zamora with its dark-haired women and towers of spider-haunted mystery,
Zingara with its chivalry, Koth that bordered the pastoral lands of Shem,
Stygia with its shadow-guarded tombs, Hyrkania whose riders wore steel and silk and gold.
But the proudest kingdom of the world was Aquilonia, reigning supreme in the dreaming west.
Hither came Conan the Cimmerian, black-haired, sullen-eyed, sword in hand,
a thief, a reaver, a slayer, with gigantic melancholies and gigantic mirth,
to tread the jeweled thrones of the earth under his sandled feet."
- The Nemedian Chronicles
109 posted on 03/12/2004 6:40:21 PM PST by g'nad
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To: neverdem
"New law to ban swords"

hmmm...s words, huh? Like "sex," or "shame," or "sin," or, something...

111 posted on 03/12/2004 6:57:15 PM PST by redhead (You can’t "out mother" your mother. Don’t even try.)
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To: Bacon Man; Xenalyte; humblegunner; Hap
Sticks and stones will be next (they can break your bones you know).

Meanwhile in America, names have been banned.

112 posted on 03/12/2004 7:53:46 PM PST by wysiwyg (What parts of "right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?)
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To: perfect stranger
Well how about sabres?

....and scimitars, scabbards, scythes, sickles, etc.

113 posted on 03/12/2004 8:06:47 PM PST by Consort
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To: g'nad
"Conan, what is good in life?"

"To crush your enemies, to drive them before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women."


114 posted on 03/12/2004 8:07:04 PM PST by Fedora
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To: wysiwyg
Meanwhile in America, names have been banned.

In an update, Ban has just been banned:


115 posted on 03/12/2004 8:14:23 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Consort
scissors, saw blades, switchblades...

So they are only banning them if they start with a bloody "S"?

"Only on account of villany."

116 posted on 03/12/2004 8:41:27 PM PST by perfect stranger ("Don't shoot – I'm Che! I'm worth more to you alive than dead!" Che Guevara October 1967)
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To: perfect stranger
....shivs, scalpels, shanks, stelettos,.....steak knives.....
117 posted on 03/12/2004 8:49:32 PM PST by Consort
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To: Consort
shears, slicers...
118 posted on 03/12/2004 8:56:47 PM PST by perfect stranger ("Don't shoot – I'm Che! I'm worth more to you alive than dead!" Che Guevara October 1967)
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To: perfect stranger
....skivers, skewers, switchblades, scramsaxes, spathas, shinais, spadones,....
119 posted on 03/12/2004 11:07:28 PM PST by Consort
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To: wysiwyg; Xenalyte; humblegunner; Hap
Meanwhile in America, names have been banned.


True.

120 posted on 03/13/2004 12:51:22 AM PST by Bacon Man (Beware the lollipop of mediocrity. Lick once and you suck forever.)
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