TWO WITNESSES COULD END KERRY PRESIDENTIAL RUN -- "The Phoenix Project"

various sources | 3-12-04 | dfu

[doug from upland]

THOMAS LIPSCOMB STORY

Reporter Thomas Lipscomb wrote the story which is linked above in the NY SUN. It has the potential to end the Kerry presdential run.

I had a great conversation with Lipscomb a short while ago. This story was too hot for some of the majors. But Lipscomb assured me it is well-sourced and is dead on.

Two witnesses have placed John Kerry at a Kansas City meeting of the hierarchy of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War in November of 1971. At that meeting, they actually took a vote about assassinating United States senators. It was called "The Phoenix Project" and was the brainchild of Scott Camil. Kerry spokesman David Wade has denied Kerry was at the meeting.

The two witnesses who place Kerry at the meeting are Terry Du-Bose and Randy Barnes. What is very interesting is that Barnes is a big Kerry supporter and the head of Missouri Vets for Kerry. As a supporter, Barnes would certainly not make up a story that would hurt his candidate. He told Lipscomb of Kerry's attendance at the meeting.

Think of the implications. If the mainsteam media and major news networks do their homework, they may discover that a man who wants to be president was at a meeting discussing the possiblity of assassinating United States senators. That is a conspiracy. Instead of the White House, does John Forbes Kerry belong in the Big House?

Get on the phone to newsrooms and shame them into covering this story. A major mainsteam journalist returned by email in about a half hour after I sent him info. He finds it "interesting." Let's see if pursues it. He is notable enough, that if he does the story, all hell will break loose in the presidential campaign.

Note: Lipscomb is not a right-wing ideologue. He did a recent story defending Kerry over his medals. He also recently did a story in which he went after George Bush's National Guard service. He told me that he expected to find a drunken rich kid with coke up his nose. Instead, he discovered that Bush actually did more than make up the meetings he had missed and he honorably fulfilled his duty. And Terry McAuliffe knows it.

[BOBWADE]

Ping

[Cboldt]

Title 3, Chapter 1, seems to deal mostly with what happens between the Election and the meeting of the Electoral College.

I think that the most pointed questions on this thread have focused on the time between now and the Election

Heheh. Most of the questions on the thread relate to Kerry's meeting in 1970's, and I promise not to clutter this thread with but one more off-topic observation.

You are correct, Title 3, Ch 1 is entirely about "after the election." My bizzaro tendancy realizes that elections are not necessarily as orderly as we are accustomed to; and evil can throw the process into chaos at many points. And the media could be all a'twitter with "Isn't this exciting!"

[doug from upland]

Please think about it.
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Reminds me of one of my favorite movies. "Plastics....will you think about it? Enough said."

[Robert_Paulson2]

funny.... probably true too. heheh... our crustypantsgirl is certainly "all that" aint' she?

[OXENinFLA]

Was it durring the 30hr debate?

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Hillary Clinton is preparing to take a coronation at the convention after Kerry falls. She has had to spend no money. There are no soundbites from other RAT candidates attacking her. She would only have to run a very short campaign. It is her dream scenario.

Yep. She has cleverly stayed out of the fray while watching the polling data and throwing tho occasional monkey wrench into the mix. If she concludes that GW is vulnerable enough, JFK will suffer an epifany (or worse, an "accident") and Evita will step in to popular acclaim. Machiavelli himself couldn't have written a better story line.

Of course, were JFK capable of beating GW and simultaneously stupid enough to pick Hillary for VP, Kerry would probably slip on a bar of soap in the shower and break his neck in month two of his fisrt term. Sacrebleu! Whaala!

[Robert_Paulson2]

so what?

Treason is considered a big time plus as political credentials in a presidential election... probably even ranking higher than adultery or lying under oath.

amongst democrats that is.
His popularity should really soar on this "announcment" and in fact, he may have leaked this through back channels himself, just so he could be more "anti-establishment" than DEAN...

and the moderates will love him more because this is nothing but a "mean spirited attack" by the "cruel fascist republicans". 'word up man' word up!

[Mo1]

Oh geez .. I can't rememeber ... it was last year and it lasted till late in the night

I hate when my brain goes dead

[OXENinFLA]

"out of the darkness and into the light"


Pantera - Cowboys From Hell

[upcountry miss]

Bump for more thorough perusal later. These reports against Kerry are coming in fast and furious. Hope some of them stick to him.

[Robert_Paulson2]

they would call it the "wellstone project"

you are spot on about hillary using him as a placeholder till the convention, as she would have never withstood the scrutiny of the primary process...

I think the past history of bodycount with the clintongs indicate that kerry would be smart to stay off private and most commercial planes.

how like the clinktons... Watch out, "Ho Chi Kerry" watch out. Remember paul wellstone... and the clintongs...

[OXENinFLA]

Give me a minute I'll find it.

You have any idea of the name?

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

His "no" vote was probably a flip-flop from his earlier stance.

LOL! Yes. When Kerry votes no, he means NO (or yes). Just like when he votes yes, he means YES (or no).

[michigander]

so what?...

'word up man' word up!

You're breaking up!... I can hardly hear you... Must be a bad connection as the static is overwhelming... SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH....

[Mo1]

No I can't remember the name

But he did write articles about the impeachment (supporting Clinton of course) and changing the electoral voting process

[OXENinFLA]

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Mrs. CLINTON. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the privilege of the floor be granted to the following fellows in my staff: Robyn Golden and William Rom.

PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR -- (Senate - November 19, 2003)

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[OXENinFLA]

I gotta laugh here, why do you ask for the name?

[Mo1]

No that's not him

http://www.med.nyu.edu/people/W.Rom.html

[doug from upland]

NEWSMAX DOES THE STORY

[OXENinFLA]

Mrs. CLINTON. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent thatDr. Leonardo Trasande and Dr. Murali Raju, legislative fellows in my office, be granted floor privileges for the duration of this debate. PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR -- (Senate - June 24, 2003)

Mrs. CLINTON. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that Murali Raju, a fellow from my office, be granted the privilege of the floor for the duration of the debate.

PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR -- (Senate - January 23, 2003)

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