Libertarian Party worries over tally (Pedophile Rights Candidate May Win)

San Jose Mercury News ^ | Thu, Mar. 11, 2004 | Dan Stober

[nickcarraway]

Personal liberties are the hallmark of the Libertarian Party, but party leaders are fretting that a Mountain View man convicted of a sex-related crime is just a few votes from becoming their candidate for a state Senate seat this fall.

[Conservative til I die]

But you'd have to admit the libertarians can do more damage as a part of the Republican Party. There are plenty of libertarian Republicans out there already, myself included.

[Conservative til I die]

One thing I have learned here is no matter how venal a person is or how low his actions, all he has to do is say he is a Libertarian and the Libertarians here will defend him.

So basically you know one nut Libertarian and know *of* one other. And that qualifies you to basically equate every libertarian with pedophiles.

You are an absolute tool.

I wonder if you use the same stereotyping when it comes to race.

BTW, no one here is defending the guy.

[tutstar]

It doesn't say a lot for the Libertarians does it?

[tpaine]

One thing I have learned here is no matter how venal a person is or how low his actions, all he has to do is say he is a Libertarian and the Libertarians here will defend him.
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BS.

Although many of us have learned, -- no matter how venal a person is or how low his actions, -- all he has to do is say he is an anti-libertarian and many of the rest of FR's clowns & weirdos will pile on to agree with him.

Works both ways, bozo.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

``John's a fairly decent guy,'' Hinkle said. ``But frankly we'd prefer that he not run again

My Sainted Avacados!

Mark Hinkle is another that you would not want to be associated with. A fairly decent guy? I have to wonder where his line is.

[tpaine]

Better yet, put the thread in the backroom where it belongs.

[jim_trent]

The flip side is, all a person has to do is say something bad about a Libertarian and the other Libertarians will pile on. Even if the Libertarian in question is currently in jail for being a pedophile or (in another case) has spent time in jail for hiring thugs to break arms.

"tpaine"; you are right that I don't know many Libertarians. I doubt that many people do. The ones I do know range from "colorful" (which means that they test the limits of the law, but have not yet stepped over the line) to lawbreakers. The two that ended up in jail are the ones that I have posted about before (including links to news articles) and saw many Libertarians here defend sex with children and hiring thugs to physically harm others. I still believe that those things are unacceptable. You obviously believe otherwise.

"die"; go ahead and run to the moderator like you undoubtedly run to mommy whenever someone disagrees with you. Whether you like it or not, the Libertarian-pedophile I was telling you about is now in jail. That is a fact. Nowhere in any of my posts did I say that ALL Libertarians are pedophiles. They just support them. Now, please don't lie about me in your posts in the future. If you do, I won't run to the moderator like you. I will just invite others to read my posts and judge for themselves which one of us lied.

[The Libertarian Dude]

How could libertarians possibly "damage" the Republican party? By reminding the GOP that they should actually BELIEVE themselves, much less back it up, when they say they're for smaller and more fiscally responsible government?

When GW cuts ONE government program, or vetoes ONE spending bill, I'll believe he's even *interested* in cutting the size, scope, and cost of government.

Having said all that, I'm going to waste my vote on him, but the rest of my choices shall go to the people who I think will be the least criminally-minded once in office.
In the past, I've voted for Dems - well, twice, but NEVER for anything above state level, and only because their opponents were shifty (and there were no Libertarians running for those positions) - and a few Republicans. Hell, I voted for Reagan, but once GW Version 1.0 got his mitts on things, that's when I jumped ship on the GOP.

Now, some folks think that because I voted Libertarian, I *actually* voted for Democrats. "Wasted vote" and all that rot. Well, maybe Bob "I'm Bob Dole" Dole and GW 2.0 didn't get my votes, but by God neither did Clinton or Gore. Those two, I wouldn't trust to mow my yard with kiddie scissors.

[The Libertarian Dude]

If you've witnessed "libertarians" defending sex with children, I'd like to know about it. I'll personally break his arms.

I'm kidding. That's illegal. Too bad, but it's illegal.

Now, much as I loathe to bring this up: I was accused of such a thing by a lowlife bastard. He hid behind the anonymity of Family Services, lied through his teeth, and... well, they found me innocent, because I didn't do it. However, they don't find you "innocent"; it's either "the charges were unsubstantiated" or "your ass is guilty". And, to make matters worse, since they keep the person making the claim anonymous, I can't even take him to court for lying about such a heinous crime.

The child's mother and I have known each other for fifteen years. She told Family Services I didn't do this thing, and so did others, because they know me. The child's "father" did this for revenge because he blames ME for their breakup.

It's been a year, and yes, I'm still pissed. Those kinds of charges should NOT be made for revenge. You don't mess with kids that way. You don't make a three-year-old girl go through a pelvic exam because her bastard father has it in for someone.

[The Libertarian Dude]

Oh, forgot this... that guy who falsely claimed that child-touching misdeed? He told Family Services AND the cops that my 13-year-old son ALSO did wrong things. Imagine how hard it was to explain that to him and keep him from hunting the SOB down himself. Good thing he doesn't drive yet. My boy's got a temper and he's a hulk of a kid. Good thing he doesn't fly off the handle - it takes something this serious to get him mad.

It's amazing... Michael Jackson can get away with molesting kids, but some lowlife nutjob can accuse me of the same thing, and I get slapped with a "do not visit" order. Guess money CAN buy you out of trouble, at least for a while...

[tpaine]

Trent, you are a very weird & nasty clown, and you know damn well that no one here is defending/supporting pedophiles. Take your divisive crap to the back room.

[philetus]

LOL! The LP is a joke, aren't they?"


If they weren't before, they are now.

[Conservative til I die]

I meant that the Libertarians could have more impact working within the GOP.

[The Libertarian Dude]

Well, they COULD, if Republicans actually cared about whittling down government growth and spending.

I know, I know... terrorism. But did Bush need to spend that NEA gimme-away arts money? That's not gonna stop terrorists any more than searching the wrong people at airports will. For that matter, searching those people with government-employee screeners won't stop terrorists, either, but did Bush lift a finger to stop Daschle and his buddies from creating MORE Dem voters by unionizing the screeners?

And if we're gonna monkey around with the Constitution, IF we have to pass an amendment banning gay marriage, I would demand another amendment that keeps eminent domain from being misused. Condemning property to make way for a new Wal-Mart is NOT what eminent domain was intended for. (No, I don't hate Wal-Mart.)

[krb]

I don't know who's sicker, the Libertarian pedophile (Webster) or the other Libertarian candidate (Rice)

If you really can't tell the difference between those two individuals, then you are guilty of what you are implying the libertarians are all about.