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W.W.J.K.: WHO WOULD JESUS KILL? (For those who missed Ann latest article)
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Posted on 03/11/2004 5:58:48 PM PST by bogdanPolska12

W.W.J.K.: WHO WOULD JESUS KILL?

William Safire, The New York Times' in-house "conservative" -- who endorsed Bill Clinton in 1992, like so many conservatives -- was sure Mel Gibson's movie "The Passion of the Christ" would incite anti-Semitic violence. Thus far, the pogroms have failed to materialize. With all the subtlety of a Mack truck, Safire called Gibson's movie a version of "the medieval 'passion play,' preserved in pre-Hitler Germany at Oberammergau, a source of the hatred of all Jews as 'Christ killers.'" (Certainly every Aryan Nation skinhead murderer I've ever met was also a devoted theater buff and "passion play" aficionado.)

The "passion play" has been put on in Germany since at least 1633. I guess 1633 would be "pre-Hitler." In addition, Moses walked the Earth "pre-Hitler." The wheel was invented "pre-Hitler." People ate soup "pre-Hitler." Referring to the passion play as "pre-Hitler" is a slightly fancier version of every adolescent's favorite argument: You're like Hitler!

Despite repeated suggestions from liberals -- including the in-house "conservative" and Clinton-supporter at the Times -- Hitler is not what happens when you gin up Christians. Like Timothy McVeigh, the Columbine killers and the editorial board of The New York Times, Hitler detested Christians.

Indeed, Hitler denounced Christianity as an "invention of the Jew" and vowed that the "organized lie (of Christianity) must be smashed" so that the state would "remain the absolute master." Interestingly, this was the approach of all the great mass murderers of the last century -- all of whom were atheists: Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.

In the United States, more than 30 million babies have been killed by abortion since Roe v. Wade, vs. seven abortion providers killed. Yeah -- keep your eye on those Christians!

But according to liberals, it's Christianity that causes murder. (And don't get them started on Zionism.) Like their Muslim friends still harping about the Crusades, liberals won't "move on" from the Spanish Inquisition. In the entire 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition, about 30,000 people were killed. That's an average of less than 100 a year. Stalin knocked off that many kulaks before breakfast.

But Safire argues that viewers of "The Passion" will see the Jewish mob and think: "Who was responsible for this cruel humiliation? What villain deserves to be punished?"

Let's see: It was a Roman who ordered Christ's execution, and Romans who did all the flaying, taunting and crucifying. Perhaps Safire is indulging in his own negative stereotyping about Jews by assuming they simply viewed Romans as "the help."

But again I ask: Does anyone at the Times have the vaguest notion what Christianity is? (Besides people who go around putting up nativity scenes that have to be taken down by court order?) The religion that toppled the Roman Empire -- anyone?

Jesus' suffering and death is not a Hatfields-and-McCoys story demanding retaliation. The gist of the religion that transformed the world is: God's only son came to Earth to take the punishment we deserved.

If the Jews had somehow managed to block Jesus' crucifixion and He had died in old age of natural causes, there would be no salvation through Christ and no Christianity. Whatever possible responses there may be to that story, this is not one of them: Damn those Jews for being a part of God's plan to save my eternal soul!

Gibson didn't insert Jews into the story for some Machiavellian, racist reason. Christ was a Jew crucified by Romans at the request of other Jews in Jerusalem. I suppose if Gibson had moved the story to suburban Cleveland and portrayed Republican logging executives crucifying Christ, the left would calm down. But it simply didn't happen that way.

Of course, the original text is no excuse in Hollywood. The villains of Tom Clancy's book "The Sum of All Fears" were recently transformed from Muslim terrorists to neo-Nazis for the movie version. You wouldn't want to upset the little darlings. They might do something rash like slaughter 3,000 innocent American civilians in a single day. The only religion that can be constantly defamed and insulted is the one liberals pretend to be terrified of.

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To: cwb
Baiters? No one baited Frum, Krauthammer, Jacoby, Safire and others. They have insulted virtually every Christian other than Unitarians who can't even really be called Christian anyway. From their reviews they A) Showed a total lack of understanding of what the Passion even means to Christians much less that it is THE CENTRAL EVENT for most every sect Protestant to Chatholic! And B) the underlying assumption that Christians are knuckle dragging morons who are going to start murdering Jews and hunting them down after the viewing of such a film that defines what we believe is quite frankly too much to bear.

My fear is not that this film will cause anti semitism. It is the ignorant, arrogant, and sickening slander on the part of a thin slice of Jewish Americans that will.
21 posted on 03/11/2004 7:21:36 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: Clint Williams
Most Jews could care less about this movie and don't think it a problem. Many have courageously defended it as your thread shows. I think our media culture just craves controversey.
22 posted on 03/11/2004 7:24:28 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: Burkeman1
re: James Caroll

It always amazes me how many "religious" like Caroll (the Berrigans, et alia) have given up the Church, but cannot let go of the magisterium.

They have abandoned the truth, and transformed their authority into a shrill and bitter arrogance.

23 posted on 03/11/2004 7:54:36 PM PST by pierrem15
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To: pierrem15
I take it that you then read his review of this film? It was the worst by far because it was written by someone who obviously is well aware of traditional Catholic theology unlike many of the Jewish or non religious critics. I can't fathom how he could write such a review? His hatreds are deep. In fact- If you read between the lines it is Carroll whom I suspect has a problem with the "Jews" rather than Gibson.
24 posted on 03/11/2004 8:00:06 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: cwb
This is from Michael Medved's appearance on the 700 club recently. He basically said the same thing you are saying.

http://700club.com/cbnnews/news/040223e%2Easp

ROBERTSON: You said this movie is like a speeding freight train coming down the track with its headlights on, and they are standing up there with a little stop sign. Why? It makes no sense.

MEDVED: I’ll tell you what part of it is, Pat. You and I very well know that there has been an increasingly strong coalition between committed Jews and committed Christians, to defend the United States, to defend the values that we care about, to defend the traditional family, and to defend Israel. And there are people in this country, particularly on the Left, who don't like that, who are very suspicious of it. And so this has been used, it seems to me in a very political way, by certain people on the Left to try to drive Jews and Christians apart. And it is our job, particularly those of us in the Jewish community, to not allow that to happen. This movie is an affirmation of Christian faith, and I am one of those Jews who believes that the more Christian America there is, the better it is for America, and the better it is for America’s Jews, and for Jews around the world.
25 posted on 03/11/2004 9:02:11 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: Burkeman1
Did you read this interview with the gay "reverend", Mark Stanger, from San Francisco about Mel Gibson's movie? Dripping with hate toward Christianity, Christians, Mel Gibson, and the movie. The interview was done before the movie's wide release.

Here's one of the unintentional humorous quotes from the interview:

"And I don’t think it’s going to make money"

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1095221/posts

26 posted on 03/11/2004 9:07:53 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom
I am not even angered over that. I just feel sorry for him and anyone who would bother to listen to him.
27 posted on 03/11/2004 9:12:26 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: bogdanPolska12
In strict accordance with the FreeRepublic by laws,
paragraph 4, section 7, stating that, and I quote:
"any mention of our beloved Ann Coulter
must include her image", I offer the following
pictures for your exclusive viewing pleasure.






Carville really IS gollum.

28 posted on 03/11/2004 9:14:25 PM PST by ChadGore ("Maybe they thought Saddam would lose the next Iraqi election")
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To: ChadGore
Did you see Mary Matlin on Miller last night? She said Carville is an acquired taste.
29 posted on 03/11/2004 9:21:52 PM PST by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the best radio show on God's green Earth)
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To: Burkeman1
Well, I wasn't angered either but it was a real eye opener for me. I know leftists and anti-Christians exist in all walks of life but I had never read the unexpurgated thoughts of one that is a Christian reverend.
30 posted on 03/11/2004 9:26:37 PM PST by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the best radio show on God's green Earth)
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To: beaversmom
The Unitarians say they are "Christian" and it is a joke. So is this guy. The most conservative Pre Vatican II believer in Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre Catholic has more in common with a Appalachian Pentacostal Christian than we do with such posers and liars.
31 posted on 03/11/2004 9:32:35 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: bogdanPolska12
I guess the muslims are counting on the Jesus "freaks" to turn the other cheek and forgive their trespasses.
32 posted on 03/11/2004 9:48:47 PM PST by takenoprisoner (illegally posting on an expired tag)
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To: Burkeman1
re: Baiters? No one baited Frum, Krauthammer, Jacoby, Safire and others.)))

Frum at NRO? The one who's in Bush's ill favor because he used his tenure in the WH to get a book published?

I hadn't read what he wrote--can you direct me to it? I also didn't know about Jacoby. Did you read Charen's piece?

33 posted on 03/12/2004 5:04:30 AM PST by Mamzelle
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