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To: Shryke
It appears that the companies that developed the transistor needed government resources to maintain profitability. Interesting, no?

Are you serously trying to say that Bell needed government largess to maintain profitability? (Now if you were talking about Archer Daniels Midlands I would be forced to agree, but not Bell)

Odd, they specifically cite government funded vacuum-tube computing

Again, vacuum tubes were NOT invented by the government, and without WWII would have undoubtedly been developed privately anyway.

You guessed it: government grants. Are you for pulling state/federal funding to universities?

One it is NOT government funding in all "institutions of higher learning" Harvard has an enormous endowment, and most of the other major schools do too. And yes I'm all for cutting government funding to universities - hotbeds of liberalism communism paid for with my tax dollars. It would do my heart good to see a whole bunch of "womens studies" programs having to depend on the marketplace to get their loot. Not to mention "environmental studies" that "show" whatever their political master in the Democratic party want them to show. And what about the so called climatologists who are nothing but Paul (never right about anything in his life) Ehrlich clones going on to support the global warming lie? Come on tell me you too wouldn't want to see them have to do honest work for a living.

61 posted on 03/11/2004 9:16:52 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: from occupied ga
Are you serously trying to say that Bell needed government largess to maintain profitability? (Now if you were talking about Archer Daniels Midlands I would be forced to agree, but not Bell)

Possibly. Read the history.

Again, vacuum tubes were NOT invented by the government, and without WWII would have undoubtedly been developed privately anyway.

Without the government's (Allied) need to crack enemy codes, the vacuum-tube computer and it's ilk would have taken much, MUCH longer to develop, if at all. For some reason you cannot grasp the meaning of this. If we were to wait for a private company to develop the technology, it becomes very likely that another country, using state funds, would develop it first. After all, why wouldn't they? They would either a: throw more money at it, or B: BUY the work from your ideal private company. Despite your beliefs, private industry is not ideally suited to every situation - technological dominance being one of them.

You are absolutely misled about universities. Examples of ridiculous programs (I know they exist, I think they are ridiculous) does not change the fact that the majority (vast) of tech universities and departments enjoy federal and state grants. If you are against these schools and departments getting the funding they need, then there is no need to debate with you any longer.

64 posted on 03/11/2004 9:30:31 AM PST by Shryke
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