[Shryke]

I don't have Libertarians - I happen to agree with alot of their beliefs - particularly government inefficiency. HOWEVER, where I draw the line, is science. We've discussed this before, occupied: real scientific leaps, the kind that keep America on top, require LARGE amounts of funds, as well as scientists*. Does that mean every leap requires a giant pool of resources? No. It just means that the majority of them do. It frustrates me that Libertarians cannot grasp the necessity of technological dominance, and the resources needed to maintain it.

*Now before you go on a rant concerning technologies that were invented and realized 50+ years ago, I'll advise you to stick to modern times - we don't live 50 years ago.

[from occupied ga]

real scientific leaps, the kind that keep America on top, require LARGE amounts of funds, as well as scientists

Just not true. Real scientific leaps don't require government funding. The transistor was NOT government funded but developed at Bell labs. The training of scientists does not require government funding. Anyone with the smarts and the grades can get into graduate school and get a PhD as long as they are willing to do the work and pay the tuition.

Do you think Intel isn't doing any research? Government funding distorts the research marketplace just like it distorts everything else. Money is spent on useless, but communist "politically correct" things, like electric vehicles.

[Oberon]

I don't have Libertarians...

You're lucky. I caught a bad case of Greens once, and it took a visit to the doctor's office, a delousing bath, and three weeks of a nasty blue-colored ointment to get rid of them.