Was Kerry Involved In Plans To Murder 7 US Senators In 1971?

"Winter Soldiers"/ "Home To War" | March 11, 2004 | Various

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[JoJo Gunn]

I agree with their changing your sensationalist title. Kerry's name doesn't even come up until this point, which appears to me to be your commentary:

"Nicosia is unlcear as to whether Kerry was still involved with the VVAW at this time...."

[Hon]

I had hoped I wasn't writing in a vacuum and didn't have to re-invent the wheel (to mix mets) since I provided the link in the first paragraph where Kerry's involvment is more spelled out.

But for you let me explain. Kerry was seen within the VVAW as either the number one or number two man during 1971. Al Hubbard was the other top leader. (The media saw him as the number one man.)

There is considerable controversy as to when Kerry left the VVAW leadership and when he left the VVAW entirely. But even Nicosia's account talks about the leadership changing AFTER the Kansas City meeting in November--where these events described occurred.

Kerry's close involvement with this the people involved in these discussion is incontrovertible. He is still closely involved with many of these same VVAW. (A former VVAW member, John Hurley, is the head of Veterans For Kerry.) It is also reported that Camil had brought up this idea during Dewey Canyon III, in April 1971.

It is not in the least bit sensational to ask what Kerry's involvement was. In fact, the current headline is far more misleading than mine was, for there is no question whatsoever about the VVAW being involved. We have their admissions in black and white.

[Deb]

Geez, I can't believe Jesse Helms made it this far.

The monumental hypocrisy and deliberate lack of curiosity (a constant chant against GW) on the part of the media is causing my brain to overheat.

[Hon]

Scott Camil and the Gainesville Eight
oral history analysis

Throughout the interview, Landers is able to remain calm and somewhat detached, and avoids getting emotionally involved to the extent of sacrificing objectivity as a result of the shocking nature of Camil’s often graphic testimony. This skill is epitomized by his reaction to Camil’s explanation of an alternative to symbolically throwing away medals during a march on Washington [Dewey Canyon III, in April 1971].

Camil prefaces the plan by saying that it is something he has never told anyone before, and “I did not think it was terrible at the time. My plan was that, on the last day…we would go into the [congressional] offices…we would schedule the most hard-core hawks for last-and we would shoot them all.”

http://innerspace-unltd.net/writing/camil.html

There is NO doubt about Kerry's position within the VVAW in April, 1971.

[Deb]

Remember when some Democrats floated the rumor that GW was responsible for Paul Wellstone's plane crash and demanded an investigation? Here you've got actual members of Kerry's "Band of Brothers" advocating the murder of conservative Senators!!! I think this is incredible.

[Torie]

Good to see you again Deb. I hope this finds you well.

[Hon]

"deliberate lack of curiosity (a constant chant against GW) on the part of the media"

It's not just the media. But yeah, it is maddening.

[Hon]

Here is another brother in the band you might want to take a gander at:

Kerry's Veteran Organizer Joe Bangert Sang For The Enemy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1092856/posts

Joe Bangert's Testimony Before The Winter Soldiers Investigation [Bangert Is Kerry's Vet Organizer]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1092905/posts

One Of John Kerry's "Band Of Brothers"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1092936/posts

I promise you will be shocked.

[Cornelius Jay McGuyver]

Bumpity-bump-bump

[doug from upland]

Perhaps the press needs to ask Kerry if he had ever attended a meeting where assassination was discussed.

[JoJo Gunn]

How nice of you to explain. Changes nothing.

[secretagent]

Thanks not just for posting these threads, and keeping track of the stories.

You have a knack from framing the facts in a coherent "gestalt". Connecting the dots!

[Hon]

Thanks for the kind words.

[Balata]

Kudos for all your efforts.

Because the left doesn't want to see Kerry and Hanoi Jane linked (ie. a picture) I think the agenda that showed the time each was scheduled to speak should get wide dissemination.

[doug from upland]

Great work. It has been sent to contacts at CBS, ABC, the Boston Globe, the Wall Street Journal, NY Times, and New York Post.

[Hon]

Thanks. And you're right. That was what was so frustrating about how they treated the picture and ignored the story:

John Kerry At Valley Forge (With Jane Fonda) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1074369/posts

And, as you say, they certainly don't want to admit that Kerry was the LEAD speaker that day:

[RippleFire]

bump

[Deb]

I'm very well (except for my John F. Kerry migraine) and it's a relief to see you're still around.

[bellas_sister]

Holy Crap!!! Do you think any of this will ever see the light of day or nite time network news....?