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Op-Ed: Protect Social Security Now With a Federal Retail Sales Tax
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Posted on 03/10/2004 3:01:26 PM PST by chance33_98

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1 posted on 03/10/2004 3:01:34 PM PST by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
Pardon my ignorance, but will all other taxes be abolished and/or outlawed with the passage of this measure?

Cause if they're not, forget it...
2 posted on 03/10/2004 3:08:23 PM PST by ECM
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To: Taxman
Right up your alley!
3 posted on 03/10/2004 3:11:53 PM PST by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: ECM
Pardon my ignorance, but will all other taxes be abolished and/or outlawed with the passage of this measure?

No, it will be passed (assuming it is passed someday) as an additional tax. An idea whose time has come.

4 posted on 03/10/2004 3:17:16 PM PST by templar
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To: chance33_98
Sure is interesting that on one hand Greesspan is discussing cutting SS beneifts for Americans who've paid into it all their lives while behind the scenes there's efforts to give SS benefits to illegal aliens.....something wrong with this picture?
5 posted on 03/10/2004 3:23:53 PM PST by american spirit
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To: chance33_98
I know, let's just enact a 100% tax on all incomes. We must "protect" Social Security at all costs!!!11
6 posted on 03/10/2004 3:26:49 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: chance33_98
Another tax on the backs of the poor, and the middle class, which soon will be poor!
7 posted on 03/10/2004 3:27:29 PM PST by chainsaw (http://www.Hanoi John Fonda Kerry.org.)
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To: american spirit
Sure is interesting that on one hand Greesspan is discussing cutting SS beneifts for Americans who've paid into it all their lives while behind the scenes there's efforts to give SS benefits to illegal aliens.....something wrong with this picture?

I don't disagree with the substance of your point (about illegals), but as for the first group of people - people who "paid into" Social Security - they should have realized, and should realize, that what they were paying "into" was a pyramid scheme. The fact that they were paying into it all their lives just means that they were sending part of their income to strangers (senior-citizen strangers) all their lives. It was not a savings account or pension of any kind and they have no valid, legal moral or otherwise, claim to receive payments from yet other strangers.

8 posted on 03/10/2004 3:30:31 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: templar
No, it will be passed (assuming it is passed someday) as an additional tax. An idea whose time has come.

The bottom line....... more money will come out of the pockets of you and me!!
9 posted on 03/10/2004 3:39:02 PM PST by evaporation-plus
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To: american spirit
The fact is that Social Security is a government-run Ponzi scheme, and all Ponzi schemes eventually collapse. It just takes longer when it's run by the people who define the value of money.
10 posted on 03/10/2004 3:41:32 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: ECM
According to the op/ed:

"First, abolish all federal income taxes and the regressive payroll tax"
11 posted on 03/10/2004 3:41:50 PM PST by LI Rep
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To: templar
No, it will be passed (assuming it is passed someday) as an additional tax. An idea whose time has come.

No Damn Way. To not abolish the other taxes is to simply INCREASE Taxes, NOTHING MORE

12 posted on 03/10/2004 3:44:52 PM PST by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: chance33_98
Seriously,

Does anyone really think social security is more important than ball players taking "performance enhancing" drugs or how soon we can get the iraqis broadband and digital cable?

The actions of our elected officials speak louder than their words.
13 posted on 03/10/2004 3:50:56 PM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: mvpel
At our Republican Caucus last night there were actually some who said one of the TOP 3 issues of importance was...ta...da....SAVING Social Security!!!.....
14 posted on 03/10/2004 4:09:05 PM PST by goodnesswins (The Democrat "Funeral" is on.....dum..dum..di...dum.)
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To: ancient_geezer
Calling all geezers...
15 posted on 03/10/2004 4:10:35 PM PST by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org ** G-d may not be a Republican, but Satan is definitely a Democrat!)
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To: templar; evaporation-plus; TLI; ECM
No, it will be passed (assuming it is passed someday) as an additional tax. An idea whose time has come

Wrong. Why don't you read the bill? fairtax.org

16 posted on 03/10/2004 4:13:03 PM PST by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org ** G-d may not be a Republican, but Satan is definitely a Democrat!)
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To: chainsaw
You need to read up on it. That's not true.
17 posted on 03/10/2004 4:13:56 PM PST by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org ** G-d may not be a Republican, but Satan is definitely a Democrat!)
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To: TLI
No Damn Way. To not abolish the other taxes is to simply INCREASE Taxes, NOTHING MORE

If you want to save S.S. by spending more money on it, you will have to increase taxes on somebody!! More money into the system means more money out of your pocket, SIMPLE.
18 posted on 03/10/2004 4:33:08 PM PST by evaporation-plus
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To: ovrtaxt
Wrong. Why don't you read the bill?

OK, so it will be passed as written in this bill, amended in no way, and this is the bill that will be passed, and all taxes, from workers comp to social security to the phone tax will vanish instantly, and if it fails no other bill will ever be presented.

Sheesh, why don't you read my post, I predicted how the NRST will be passed, assuming that it is passed at all. I didn't comment on the bill at all. And the question I replied to was asking if all other taxes would vanish with it's passage. You really think that it will ever pass in a manner that just goes "POOF" and all other Federal taxes are now repealed? Get real. Neither Republicans or Democrats are willing to give up the control that those taxes allow, and it will take a significant amount of time to reestablish that control before the taxes could be repealed if they ever are (they won't want to give up the revenue either).

19 posted on 03/10/2004 4:40:59 PM PST by templar
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To: chainsaw
Another tax on the backs of the poor, and the middle class, which soon will be poor!

That's the whole point, isn't it? Socialism makes everybody equal - equally poor and equally stupid.

20 posted on 03/10/2004 5:09:57 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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