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The Tenth Brother [former Kerry mate from Nam steps forward: "Kerry was chickens---"]
Time Magazine ^ | 3.09.04

Posted on 03/09/2004 11:33:47 PM PST by ambrose



Tuesday, Mar. 09, 2004
The Tenth Brother

Douglas Brinkley, author of Tour of Duty: John Kerry and the Vietnam War, interviews Kerry’s tenth warmate and gets a story sharply different from what the other nine crew members have had to say

Just when it looked like Senator John Kerry’s so-called Band of Brothers were unified in vouching for his leadership in Vietnam there is suddenly a lone ripple of dissent in the ranks. “What can I say?” Kerry said when told that a former crewmate had unpleasant memories of him as his commanding officer. “I’ll take nine out of ten testimonies anytime.”

Every sailor who served under Lieutenant John Kerry on Swift boats PCF-44 and PCF-94 have gushed about his poise under enemy fire. They tell stories of his rescuing a Green Beret from drowning, killing a Viet Cong sniper, and saving 42 Vietnamese civilians from starvation. To paraphrase Ernest Hemingway they claim that in combat Kerry exemplified “grace under pressure.” But PCF-44 Gunner’s Mate Stephen M. Gardner—in a long telephone interview from his home in Clover, South Carolina—has a starkly different memory. “Kerry was chickenshit,” he insists. “Whenever a firefight started he always pulled up stakes and got the hell out of Dodge.”

When writing my book Tour of Duty: John Kerry and the Vietnam War (William Morrow & Company) I interviewed all of Kerry’s crewmates—all that is, except Gardner. They came from mid-size towns scattered across America including Kankakee, Illinois, and Ames, Iowa and Columbia, South Carolina. When first approached for interviews in late 2002 these Navy veterans told me they would enthusiastically campaign for their old skipper if he ever decided to run for president; they’ve lived up to their promise. Whether it’s PCF-94’s Chief Petty Officer Del Sandusky talking about Kerry’s undaunted courage on TV campaign commercials or PCF-44’s William Zaladonis explaining how Kerry never backed down, they’ve been a united front. Nobody has campaigned harder for Kerry than his crewmates. Kerry’s surprise victories in the Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary were, in part, a tribute to their unshakable conviction that Kerry was a born leader.

When researching Tour of Duty some of these veterans proved extremely difficult to track down. Stephen W. Hatch, a boatswain’s mate who served under Kerry on PCF-44, proved particularly elusive. Eventually I located him in Niagra Falls, New York and he told me about his admiration for Chuck Berry guitar licks, rose tattoos and John Kerry. As my book went to press the only Swift crewmate I couldn’t locate was Gardner. A quick count in the index of Tour of Duty shows that Gardner’s name appears on a dozen different pages throughout my narrative. He also periodically appeared in Kerry’s war diaries. Still, my various inquiries to the U.S. Naval Historical Center, the Swift Boat Crew Directory and other outstanding reference outlets proved futile.

So it was with a sense of genuine relief when PCF-44’s Jim Wasser telephoned me last week with the news that Gardner had “rung him up out-of-the-blue” to discuss their shared days together in Vietnam. “It was great” Wasser told me. “You know he fought bravely in Vietnam. He is still a brother. I miss him. I would like to see him.” He then hesitated and went on. “But he has developed a strange, negative assessment of Lieutenant Kerry. It shocked me. His memory is dead wrong. He remembers things so differently.… He has some kind of weird grudge against Lieutenant Kerry.”

This was unexpected news. In Tour of Duty I portrayed the crew of PCF-44 as a true Band of Brothers—it turns out they were a Band of Brothers minus one. A disappointed Wasser gave me Gardner’s telephone numbers, reminding me that PCF-44 gunner’s mate was nicknamed “The Wild Man” by his crewmates for his hair-trigger penchant for firing M-60s into the mangrove thicket. “Let me know what you find out,” Wasser told me. “I’m having trouble understanding where he’s coming from.”

After interviewing Gardner for over an hour it essentially boils down to one word: politics. A strong supporter of President George W. Bush, Gardner is sickened by the idea of Kerry as president. “Anybody but Kerry,” he says. “I know what a disaster he’d be.” So what brought Gardner out in the open? The answer turns out to be Rush Limbaugh’s talk show.

Around the time of the South Carolina primary, Gardner heard Limbaugh say there was something fishy about Kerry’s Vietnam service but he couldn’t quite put his finger on it. “I was driving down the road, and I hit that [radio] button and Rush was talking about Kerry and his campaign and how something just didn’t feel right to him,” Gardner recalled, his voice full of conviction. “Something about what John Kerry did or was doing, just really didn’t set right with him. And you know I served with this guy, and the bottom line to it is; harsh as this may sound or as good as it sounds to any Democrat, out there, John Kerry is another ‘Slick Willy.’ He’s another Bill Clinton and that’s exactly what he is. And I’m telling you right now, that if John Kerry gets to be president of these United States, it’ll be a sorry day in this world for us. We can’t stand another Democrat like that in there again. We’ll get our asses in such a sling this time; we won’t be able to get out of it. And the bottom line to it is, I don’t care how much John Kerry’s changed after he moved off my boat, his initial patterns of behavior when I met him and served under him was somebody who ran from the enemy, rather than engaged it. If I’d had Rush’s 800 number, or known how to reach him, I would have called in.”

Gardner was born on January 3, 1948 in Portsmouth, Ohio. His family moved to the Lake Erie shore town of Port Clinton, Ohio when he was seven or eight years old. Shortly after his seventeenth birthday he enlisted in the U.S. Navy. “My dad was in the navy, so I wasn’t gonna be an army ‘ground pounder,’” he recalled. “I really liked boats and hunting. Shooting things.” He attended gunnery school at the Great Lakes Naval Training Center in Waukegan, Illinois and was then sent to Swift boat school at Coronado, California, the same place where Kerry trained in August-October 1968. From there—in late 1965—Gardner was sent off to Subic Bay in the Philippines where he helped load Swift boats onto an LST and headed to Vietnam.

Over the next three years Gardner served as gunner on four different Swift boats, each with a different commanding officer. His least favorite was his last: Lieutenant (j.g.) John F. Kerry of PCF-44. When describing Kerry he unloads choice adjectives, “opportunist” being his favorite. His most colorful phrase is claiming that all Kerry wanted to do was “save his lily-white ass.” Up until now he has kept his resentment mostly to himself. “I’ve told a few of my friends that he was an asshole,” Gardner says. “But I’m not looking to make news.”

No two men remember combat exactly the same way so Kerry has been extremely lucky that 9 out of his 10 crewmen have almost identical stories about his valor during various firefights and skirmishes. But memories can vary from person to person; Gardner insists that the Kerry he knew in Vietnam was a singularly un-heroic figure. He dismisses the glowing eyewitness accounts of his crewmates Jim Wasser (Radarman), Bill Zaladonis (Petty Officer), Drew Whitlow (Boatswain’s Mate) and Stephen Hatch (Boatswain’s Mate) as bunk. “Kerry sat some of them down and convinced them to buy into his side of what happened over there,” he explains in bizarrely conspiratorial fashion with no evidence to back him up. “When you’re as persuasive as Kerry it’s not hard to make a guy change something that he saw.”

Gardner’s first bone of contention involves an incident that took place on the morning of December 29, 1968. PCF-44 was in a small canal just off the Co Chien River. They had been probing the waterway with another Swift boat on a minor Operation SEALORDS raid and on their way back had come under enemy fire. “We went into a dangerous area that had numerous hooches and sampans,” Wasser recalled. “The enemy was thick. Once we got in the canal we took a lot of small arms fire, followed by mortar. Our adrenaline was racing; we went right back at them with all the firepower we could muster. That’s when Gardner got hit.”

As recounted in Tour of Duty by Kerry, Gardner had shouted: “There’s somebody running over there…He’s got a gun…on the port side, on the port side!” PCF-44’s crew had been firing at thatched huts on their way out of the canal, and the reports of their own guns had muffled those of the shots being fired at them. Suddenly, Gardner shrieked, “I’m hit,” and stopped firing for a moment. Before Kerry could ask his condition, Gardner shouted from his post: “I’ll be okay,” and went back to firing his two .50s.

There is a dispute between Kerry and Gardner about what happened next. Kerry insists that the engagement was over when the boats pulled out. “We didn’t leave until the mission was over and all the boats headed out together,” says Kerry. He claims that only after the firefight was over—and enemy fire had been supressed—did he order PCF-44 to head back to a primitive base at Dong Tam so Gardner could receive medical attention from the U.S. Army’s Third Surgical Division, based in a makeshift hospital there. But Gardner asserts that Kerry was simply fleeing the firefight. “He wanted to get out of the river to save his own ass,” Gardner maintains. “I was ready to keep going.”

When told of Gardner’s criticism of Kerry’s order, all of PCF-44’s other crewmen disagreed with the tough talking South Carolinian’s assessment. “Kerry made the right command decision,” Wasser, second in command of PCF-44, maintains. “We went into a 30 or 40 yard wide canal, suppressed enemy fire and got out of there before we were killed. You just don’t hang around to get shot at. Gardner doesn’t know what he is talking about.”

Then there is Gardner’s bold claim that Kerry use to take PCF-44 four or five miles from shore every night so not to get shot at. When pressed how this could be so, since oftentimes they were 25 miles upriver, he backed down. “Okay, when we were in the rivers we didn’t go to sea,” he averred. “But he always tried to park it away from the action and hide.” The other members of PCF-44 were incredulous when they heard Gardner’s claim. To Wasser it was “erroneous to his memory,” to Zaladonis “just not true,” to Whitlow “false” and to Hatch “a falsehood.”

Which brought the interview to the crux of Gardner’s beef against Kerry. Gardner—who remembers no important dates or times or locales—claims that Kerry once threatened him with a court martial. The incident happened when Gardner, who told me he had “no trouble shooting gooks,” saw a Viet Cong guerilla with an AK-47 in a boat and started firing. “I lay the hammer down on him,” Gardner explains. “I just put a finger on the gun: boom, boom, boom, boom. He’s done. He got flipped out of the boat, he went straight down. That’s when Kerry came running out of the guntub screaming ‘ceasefire, ceasefire, ceasefire.’ Then he turned to me and said, ‘I ought to have you court-martialed for shooting.’ I said, ‘Hmmph…sorry big boy. When somebody brings a gun up on me I’m gonna shoot and I’ll ask questions later ‘cause I ain’t goin’ back in a body bag.’”

The hardnosed Gardner returned from Vietnam in February 1969; Kerry came home a month later. The two men haven’t spoken in nearly 35 years. Kerry has no recollection of any of Gardner’s accusations, including the threatening of a court martial. None of PCF-44’s crew trusts Gardner’s memory. Today Gardner claims he works at Millennium Services (an insurance inspection company) and is bitter about Kerry’s national prominence. At various times in our interview he complained about Kerry “running around with Hanoi Jane” after the war and having a “rich wife.” And—like Limbaugh—he is determined to convince people that Kerry is Slick Willy incarnate.

When informed of Gardner’s accusations Kerry, campaigning in Texas, simply stated they weren’t true. “He deserves respect because he served our country well,” Kerry says of Gardner. “I left the country thinking well of Gardner and even tried to find him several times. But his stories are made up. It’s sad, but that’s the way it goes in war, and especially in politics.” And then he added: “But don’t ask me. I know the guys, my other crewmates, and they’ll set the record straight.”



Douglas Brinkley is director of the Eisenhower Center for American Studies and professor of history at the University of New Orleans.


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To: kcvl
The only real accomplishments Clinton can take credit for is signing GOP bills after 1995.

He tried the Mediscare approach and hurt Newt. Big Deal. The GOP got it's slower increase in spending and Clinton ran on the projected surpluses.

Ditto welfare reform. He fought it, fought it, fought it and vetoed it twice. Then he signed it and took all the credit for it's later success after saying at the 1996 convention he'd "fix it".

Now the Democrats talk of all those "surpluses" the Dems had like they are now the fiscally responsible ones. There was only ONE year of a surplus, the rest were projections and then the stock market burst and the economy downturned to a recession and then the uncertainty of 2000 followed by 9/11 and the corporate scandals that were the result of the market burst and fraud.

And don't forget the effect his penis had on the markets because he was impeached.

Clinton and then Gore in 2000 liked to talk of peace and prosperity. As we now know, both were fake. The peace was fake as Clinton ignored all the attacks builiding up to 9/11, mostly because only military personnel were dying. And the prosperity was fake because of the lies told by corporations under a lax SEC and campaign money to the Clinton's. Bob Novak had a good column a couple years back about how the economic numbers were fudged and overstated. Then you subtract the lies of WorldComm, Global Crossings, etc. and you don't get such a rosy picture.

Even the unemployment figure that around 1998-1999 went to 4% was put into question and found wanting in some of their assumptions. Knowing Clinton, they used the household survey while they all today whine about they payroll survey. (question: why does the government do these separate surveys and publish their different numbers knowing all politicians and pundits will pick and choose them? Are we being manipulated? Do they put out conflicting data just to argue about it and make us think they are doing something?)

It was all a house of cards.
21 posted on 03/10/2004 12:39:46 AM PST by Fledermaus (Democrats! The party of total Anarchy!)
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To: Fledermaus
It was all a house of cards.
22 posted on 03/10/2004 12:43:10 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Fledermaus
btt
23 posted on 03/10/2004 12:49:36 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Fledermaus
Bush actually did a very shrewd thing. He embraced the "surplus" to make his tax cut case. If we had that much "surplus" then, by definition, the government was taking too much money. Bush is using the Reagan approach of starving the beast.
24 posted on 03/10/2004 12:53:41 AM PST by Texasforever (I apologize in advance)
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To: ambrose
At various times in our interview he complained about Kerry “running around with Hanoi Jane” after the war and having a “rich wife.” And—like Limbaugh—he is determined to convince people that Kerry is Slick Willy incarnate.

And the problem with this is.....?

25 posted on 03/10/2004 1:04:28 AM PST by lorrainer (Professional driver. Closed course.)
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To: ambrose
Over the next three years Gardner served as gunner on four different Swift boats, each with a different commanding officer. His least favorite was his last: Lieutenant (j.g.) John F. Kerry of PCF-44. Kerry was on the swift boats for what, FOUR months? You call it.
26 posted on 03/10/2004 1:12:27 AM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: CWOJackson
I'm sure the rest of the Kerry crew, that he has been able to contact, have been well compensated.

I'm sure the rest of the Kerry crew, that he has been able to contact, have been well indoctrinated.

27 posted on 03/10/2004 1:33:21 AM PST by Aeronaut
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To: ambrose
After interviewing Gardner for over an hour it essentially boils down to one word: politics. A strong supporter of President George W. Bush, Gardner is sickened by the idea of Kerry as president. “Anybody but Kerry,” he says. “I know what a disaster he’d be.” So what brought Gardner out in the open? The answer turns out to be Rush Limbaugh’s talk show.

Good thing Brinkley told us this up front, and editorialized and paraphrased his way through Gardner's account.

I was afraid I might have to think for myself.


28 posted on 03/10/2004 1:46:30 AM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
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To: CWOJackson
I have suspected for a long, long time that Kerry had paid off those other guys over the years.

This fellow who came forward may NOT have been so able to be found or bought off as easily.

Could be the other guys were in on the deal from the beginnning and liked to be duty-shirkers. Lt. kerry was "taking care of them".... keeping them out of danger, so to speak. They could be just as cowardly as I believe kerry to be.

Maybe kerry thought the guy was dead.... or wished he was.

I think this guy is believable... he may have been a little afraid to come forward before now.... could be they did know where he was and he had been threatened. Perhaps the thought of this country under "damien" kerry finally got to him.

29 posted on 03/10/2004 1:47:18 AM PST by Lion in Winter
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To: thegreatbeast




Over the next three years Gardner served as gunner on four different Swift boats, each with a different commanding officer. His least favorite was his last: Lieutenant (j.g.) John F. Kerry of PCF-44.

It would be interesting to know what Gardner's other commanding officers thought of him.


30 posted on 03/10/2004 1:49:32 AM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
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To: thegreatbeast
Odd that in four months such a huge per centage of the "men" came away with exact same stories. Also find it odd that they just happen to remember that Gardner was the odd man out. In the AF at another time, we always knew who the "chicken...." were.
31 posted on 03/10/2004 1:58:41 AM PST by cynicom
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To: Mo1
look here
32 posted on 03/10/2004 2:35:05 AM PST by Chapita (There are none so blind as those who refuse to see! Santana)
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To: cynicom
Odd that in four months such a huge per centage of the "men" came away with exact same stories. Also find it odd that they just happen to remember that Gardner was the odd man out. In the AF at another time, we always knew who the "chicken...." were.

Agreed, but I'm not sure if this Gardner guy is on the level. He might be trying a little too hard to bias the public against Kerry, either because of his politics, or for personal reasons.

This is an interesting situation for a couple of reasons:

Regardless, though I've never served with Kerry, I know all I need to know about him because:

As a Navy Commander (05), I measured people based on character. Dishonest people can get you killed, i.e. you figure them out pretty quickly. Everything runs in a time-compressed state in a war-fighting Navy. You don't have time to mess around, or give guys the "benefit of doubt". Kerry has failed the character test by large margins, something that should matter to any veteran, voter or Patriotic American who values honor. His actions have proven him to a man wholly without character, untrustworthy, without a backbone or the selfless courage it takes to be a leader.

SFS

33 posted on 03/10/2004 2:40:51 AM PST by Steel and Fire and Stone (SFS)
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To: cynicom
A few times I thought Brinkley was trying to give away the game: "No two men remember combat exactly the same way so Kerry has been extremely lucky that 9 out of his 10 crewmen have almost identical stories about his valor during various firefights and skirmishes. Extremely lucky or queer?
34 posted on 03/10/2004 2:44:46 AM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: kcvl
Maybe it wasn't just luck

Naw? You mean, like the "bereaved 9/11 family members" whose "spontaneous outrage" turned out to be on The Dragon Lady's (Teresa's) command... and payroll? You're not suggesting -- gasp! -- collusion!

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

35 posted on 03/10/2004 2:48:48 AM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
You wrote, "Even if half thought I'd make a "great President", I'd be lucky to get more than a couple to run around with me all over the country to campaign." Actually I think there are attractions for your mates to share the spotlight in support the Hero. They are strenuously trying to get this Band of Brothers crap off the ground. In this scenario they are all basking in the reflected glory, presumably they all have a share. Like Joe Kennedy back in '60, Mrs. Heinz or the campaign is picking up all the checks for the travel, the meals and the lodging with the understanding that the Lincoln bedroom could be at the end of this. Yeah, this is very easy to put together, Commander.
36 posted on 03/10/2004 2:58:03 AM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: ambrose
Brinkley should be called not so slick Briinkley. He tried to claim that the only reason Gardner doesn't like Kerry is pure politics.

I've said it before, I don't think Brinkley is all that smart.

The smear machine gears up...

37 posted on 03/10/2004 3:03:56 AM PST by Benrand
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To: ambrose
No two men remember combat exactly the same way so Kerry has been extremely lucky that 9 out of his 10 crewmen have almost identical stories about his valor during various firefights and skirmishes. But memories can vary from person to person; Gardner insists that the Kerry he knew in Vietnam was a singularly un-heroic figure. He dismisses the glowing eyewitness accounts of his crewmates Jim Wasser (Radarman), Bill Zaladonis (Petty Officer), Drew Whitlow (Boatswain’s Mate) and Stephen Hatch (Boatswain’s Mate) as bunk. “Kerry sat some of them down and convinced them to buy into his side of what happened over there,” he explains in bizarrely conspiratorial fashion with no evidence to back him up. “When you’re as persuasive as Kerry it’s not hard to make a guy change something that he saw.”

If this did happen, it could be a good example of implanting false memories. The crewmen were a tight bunch of people, more than willing to back each other up. They were also in the limelight because a national figure like Hanoi John was paying attention to them. It wouldn’t be difficult for Hanoi John to use this to his advantage.

38 posted on 03/10/2004 3:13:24 AM PST by R. Scott
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To: Sabertooth
It would be interesting to know what Gardner's other commanding officers thought of him.

Yeah, it would.

39 posted on 03/10/2004 3:19:21 AM PST by Amelia (It's that sudden stop.)
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To: woodyinscc
All I can say is -- what a hit piece! Did ya like the way Brinkley casts aspersions on everything this guy has to say, including setting him up as a looney tunes before we even meet the guy? I particularly liked his statement that he "claims to work at...." So I guess it's been determined the guy lies about everything!

Good grief, we HAVE to take back the media before it's too late.

40 posted on 03/10/2004 3:28:02 AM PST by IrishRainy
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