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State Proposal Clamps Down on Oil Drilling (NM, Otero Mesa)
The Santa Fe New Mexican ^
| Tuesday, March 9, 2004
| Associated Press
Posted on 03/09/2004 7:22:25 PM PST by CedarDave
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The governor, at a news conference, described the Otero Mesa area as "sacred grasslands" and likened it to the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska, which has been the subject of debate in Congress over whether to allow oil development there.I'd hardly call it a grassland. Not much grass there, which is why it is essentially undeveloped, even to ranching. And that is the crux of the issue. No one's going to visit the area for its beauty, but the enviro-whackos want it undisturbed, just so they can stop the evil oil companies. The area immediately to the west is used by the U.S. Army to simulate desert warfare and develop tactics used last spring in Iraq, if that tells you anything. Check out some of the online reader comments -- the locals (at least some of them) are beginning to get it: Lack of oil means a greater hit in their wallet/pocketbook -- gasoline prices are $1.75/gallon and rising in Santa Fe this week.
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posted on
03/09/2004 7:22:25 PM PST
by
CedarDave
To: farmfriend
PING to your list, please.
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posted on
03/09/2004 7:24:08 PM PST
by
CedarDave
(A lie from your opponent left unanswered becomes the truth in the eye of a typical "swing" voter.)
To: CedarDave
N.M. GOP Donor Gets Oil-Drilling Leeway
The government has eased Clinton-era oil and gas drilling restrictions on a large tract of desert grassland in New Mexico in a decision that benefits a large Republican donor in the state.
The donor, George Yates, says his contributions and fund-raising assistance to Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) had nothing to do with the decision. The Interior Department says its drilling plan, while opening up more land in Otero Mesa, will be the most restrictive ever.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/donor_drilling Not exactly a fair and balanced article, but Otero Mesa is in the news.
To: CedarDave
Just another bloated Democrat wanting to keep the US dependent on foriegn energy sources.
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posted on
03/09/2004 7:30:50 PM PST
by
CheezyD
To: CedarDave
My goodness, we must stop oil drilling in New Mexico! If we don't, some unemployed New Mexicans might get good-paying jobs, stop needing government handouts, and even become (gasp!) REPUBLICANS! End the horror now! < /sarcasm >
To: CedarDave
"
doesn't adequately protect the fragile and biologically rich desert grasslands.""Biologically rich?"
Bwahahahahaha!
'Course, Richardson's a Clintonoid, so you wouldn't expect any truth and reality from him.
To: CedarDave
meet Bill Richardson - Wildlands project implementor
To: CedarDave
Where is Otero Mesa, down next to White Sands?
Hey-- if Kerry puts Richardson on his ticket, maybe we'll get rid of him, huh!
Another speculation: if Kerry wins this election, G-d forbid, am I the only one who's thinking that military and government labs will take a funding hit?
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posted on
03/09/2004 7:39:40 PM PST
by
maxwell
(Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
To: CedarDave
If we are very very lucky, he will throw himself under the rig and try to stop them from spudding in with his body.
So9
To: maxwell
Close. Further south, just north of the Texas border, and just east of El Paso. Very, very desolate area. You can travel 80-90 mph on highway 62-180 and spot a car or vehicle (maybe a state trooper) miles away. Of course, traveling that fast, especially in an SUV, is anathema to the environmentalists.
BTW, in my unsuccessful Google search for pictures, I saw multiple numbers of websites dedicated to both the environment AND bashing President Bush.
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posted on
03/09/2004 7:53:11 PM PST
by
CedarDave
(A lie from your opponent left unanswered becomes the truth in the eye of a typical "swing" voter.)
To: CedarDave
The key to energy independence is multiple sources.
I leave it to someone else to determine the merits of Richardson's case, but if you reflexively take US oil and gas fields out of production you should not then complain about the price of energy.
The environmental issue is not particularly valid; an oilfield is off limits to hunting, and most wildlife roams freely. Under modern regulations spills are cleaned up within hours. When the oil is gone, a few decades from now, the area will still be essentially undeveloped, the wildlife will all still be there.
And finally, whether Richardson is remunerated for his service or not is beyond my ability to know; but he should be, he serves Saudi interests well and so does anyone and any group that reflexively works to stimy non-Opec production. Notice when he retires from the governorship if he appoints himself the head of his own institute for the furtherance of who-knows-what-issue, funded by who-knows-what-sources of revenue.
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posted on
03/09/2004 7:54:42 PM PST
by
marron
To: BOBTHENAILER
PING
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posted on
03/09/2004 7:54:57 PM PST
by
CedarDave
(A lie from your opponent left unanswered becomes the truth in the eye of a typical "swing" voter.)
To: CedarDave
"Gov. Bill Richardson's administration is recommending that the federal government prohibit or sharply restrict oil and gas drilling on more than 600,000 acres in southern New Mexico, including desert grasslands of Otero Mesa."
I certainly hope not. My former boss did a lot of business with Natural Gas plants. That is going to hurt the New Mexican economy.
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posted on
03/09/2004 7:57:35 PM PST
by
writer33
(The U.S. Constitution defines a Conservative)
To: marron
Good comments. On Fox this morning, I heard that the Saudis or other middle-eastern energy countries might tighten supplies as the election approaches so as to hurt the economy and defeat Bush. Wonder why.
Hunting in the oil patch in NM is not off limits, but there is not much to hunt! Most animals are nocturnal and not hunting species.
The biggest problem with oil drilling (or any other activity out there) is that the footprint of man will remain long after the wells have been plugged and area has been cleaned up. Roads cut in an area that receives less than 6 inches of rain in a good year remain essentially forever. Even small off-road vehicle ATV's leave a foot print. This, essentially is what the environmentalists are fighting for -- keep the area pristine so no roads show up on maps or aerial photos in the future. It is essentially an aesthetic thing with them -- they may never visit it, but knowing it is untouched (essentially) gives it worth in their value base.
I think most of us have a tolerance for some disturbance in our environment (or else we would never build a new house on an undeveloped lot). And not many of us would want a large permanent power plant blocking our view of a spectacular vista. But when it gets down to constructing a short road to a small drilling pad, temporary in nature, to produce something of economic value, most of us would allow the development to go forward. Our value system can balance the amount of disturbance with the economic value obtained and feel comfortable with that. Not so the environmentalists in this case. They are radical in the sense that their value system does not allow for this choice to be made and they are tenacious in their opposition to it.
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posted on
03/09/2004 8:14:37 PM PST
by
CedarDave
(A lie from your opponent left unanswered becomes the truth in the eye of a typical "swing" voter.)
To: CedarDave
62-180, off 285, huh... I take 84 down toward I-20 all the time because it's shorter but one of these days when I get some time (ha) I want to do 285 down through Roswell and them.. That would take me down close by Otero Mesa, looks like.
Well I won't drive an SUV (bad kharma for motorcyclists in my experience) but I reckon a 1/2 ton pickup would work just as well. :)
Seems like gas went up all of a sudden. The other week I was b!tching about $1.69 in Santa Fe. I never buy gas in Santa Fe unless I am running on absolute fumes... I don't think that Richardson thinks through these things very well...
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posted on
03/09/2004 8:15:00 PM PST
by
maxwell
(Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
To: CedarDave
Well stated.
In our area we went through a period where we were forced to jump through every hoop to preserve critters that live in the oil fields, despite the fact that they preferentially live in the oilfields because no one bothers them there. If it weren't for the oil development, they would be cattle pastures, or irrigated and farmed, and the animals in question would have been forced to move on long ago.
That kind of interference seems to have abated some. I think the oil companies have all started paying off the environmental groups, and have won some peace in recent years.
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03/09/2004 8:25:49 PM PST
by
marron
To: maxwell
Actually, you can't get to it that way. It's on the west side of the Guadalupe Mountains. There are no paved roads into the area. The best way to get to see it is to take 62-180 west from Carlsbad over Guadalupe Pass. About half-way between Carlsbad and El Paso, there is a turnoff north to Dell City, Texas. Dell City is on the southern end of the area in question. The other way to see it is to take US 54 north out of El Paso past Oro Grande to the Border Patrol inspection station. Turn right on the dirt county road at the station and continue east until you are no longer on the military reservation. Bring water and a full tank of gas, you don't want to be caught short of either in that area.
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posted on
03/09/2004 8:27:20 PM PST
by
CedarDave
(A lie from your opponent left unanswered becomes the truth in the eye of a typical "swing" voter.)
To: CedarDave; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; AndreaZingg; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
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posted on
03/09/2004 11:01:16 PM PST
by
farmfriend
( Isaiah 55:10,11)
To: CedarDave
I'll try to post IPANM's response to this madness, on your thread.
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posted on
03/10/2004 2:20:42 AM PST
by
BOBTHENAILER
(One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do, but we're gonna getcha)
To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!!
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posted on
03/10/2004 3:08:17 AM PST
by
E.G.C.
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