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Women forced to have abortions?
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| Tuesday, March 9, 2004
Posted on 03/08/2004 11:03:09 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: AnnaZ
I wonder if NOW will be making a statement?
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posted on
03/09/2004 12:45:35 PM PST
by
Feiny
(Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.)
To: Salvation; maryz; narses; ultima ratio; american colleen; Aquinasfan; Scupoli; Maximilian; ...
"My God, you're hurting me" the woman began to scream. "You're killing me, I'll never be able to have babies. ... Stop!"
But Egherman ignored the pleas and screams and called for assistance from clinic workers who held the woman down as he continued to dilate her cervix.
Then he entered the victim with a pair of forceps -- "the bear" Ehgerman called them -- and began probing and pulling. He mistakenly pulled out part of the woman's intestines.
Sapp, who represented the woman, said she described it as like being drawn and quartered. Pro-Life ping
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posted on
03/09/2004 6:25:20 PM PST
by
Dajjal
To: JohnHuang2
How come a chick can say "no" in the middle of sex, and the act automatically becomes prosecutable rape, but she can't say "no" even at the beginning of an abortion? Something don't compute...
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posted on
03/09/2004 6:28:50 PM PST
by
maxwell
(Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
To: Dajjal
Creepy! Sounds like a campy horror film.
They Knew Too Much about Abortion
Invasion of the Baby Snatchers
To: Askel5; Romulus; BlackElk; ninenot; Pyro7480; BlessedBeGod; seamole; Sabretooth; Domestic Church; ..
SHEER HORROR
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posted on
03/09/2004 6:36:18 PM PST
by
Siobhan
(+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
To: AAABEST
Horror film ping. "Invasion of the Baby Snatchers"?
To: Dr. Scarpetta; ejo; B-Chan; Desdemona; Barnacle; Patrick Madrid; american colleen; Salvation
Forced Abortion in the USA
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posted on
03/09/2004 6:38:55 PM PST
by
Siobhan
(+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
To: JohnHuang2; *Catholic_list; father_elijah; nickcarraway; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Siobhan; Lady In Blue; ...
Catholic Discussion Ping!
Please notify me via Freepmail if you would like to be added to or removed from the Catholic Discussion Ping list.
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posted on
03/09/2004 6:41:55 PM PST
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: Salvation
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posted on
03/09/2004 7:03:50 PM PST
by
jwalsh07
(We're bringing it on John but you can't handle the truth!)
To: MHGinTN
,,, check this one out.
To: shaggy eel
check
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posted on
03/09/2004 7:21:24 PM PST
by
Coleus
(Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
To: Coleus
,,, 10,000+ Americans missing before action.
To: shaggy eel
Uh, I thought this defense of serial killing was all about a woman's exclusive god-like right to 'choose'. Obviously, only if the choice is to join the Molech worhsippers.
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posted on
03/09/2004 7:34:27 PM PST
by
MHGinTN
(If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...
Dear Colleague:
A federal court has ruled that an abortionist can perform an abortion on a woman even if she does not want one, setting a dangerous precedent for forced abortion in America.
Warning: The following report contains graphic descriptions of an abortion performed on a young woman against her will.
Steven Mosher
President
PRI Weekly Briefing
27 February 2004
Vol. 6 / No. 8
About F.A.C.E: Forced Abortions Now Legal In the U.S.
The Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances (FACE) Act makes the violation of a woman's right to receive reproductive health care a federal crime. It is hard to imagine a worse violation of reproductive rights than forced abortion. Yet the Eleventh Circuit of the U.S. Court of Appeals apparently disagrees.
On 23 January 2004, in Jane Roe II vs. Aware Women Center for Choice, Inc., the Eleventh Circuit Court ruled that an expectant mother can be aborted by force if the abortionist argues that it is necessary to "protect the health of the mother."
The story begins on 29 March 1997, when a young, pregnant mother entered the Aware Women Center for Choice clinic in Florida. She was there for an abortion.
Awaiting her was the abortionist, William P. Egherman,who has committed over 10,000 abortions and who has, perhaps not surprisingly, been addicted to alcohol and opiates. He began the procedure by attempting to dilate the woman's cervix with a 12 millimeter dilator.
"My God, you're hurting me" the woman began to scream. "You're killing me, I'll never be able to have babies.. Stop!"
The woman had had a change of heart. She did not want an abortion. She wanted to keep her baby. And she wanted to leave. Immediately. "Stop. Let me out of here," she cried.(1)
Instead of respecting the woman's wishes and stopping the procedure, Egherman called for assistance. Clinic workers held the woman down as Egherman, ignoring the woman's screams, continued to dilate her cervix. Then he entered the victim with a pair of forceps-"the bear" Ehgerman called them (2)-and began probing and pulling. He mistakenly pulled out part of the woman's intestines. For the woman, said her attorney, Chris Sapp, it was like being drawn and quartered.
Realizing what he had done, Egherman heavily sedated the woman. Then he called for an ambulance. He instructed the ambulance to come slowly, without lights or sirens, in order to give him "time to pack the woman with gauze."
Egherman was also worried that his regular flow of business would be interrupted by "all the hoopla." "Saturday's our big day," he explained, "and I didn't want to generate a lot of. any more confusion, any more panic than was already present at the time. She was loud, and as I said, she was shrill, and there were a lot of patients who were hearing what was going on, and the normal rhythm of the day was interrupted. The other patients must have been terrified, and I didn't want the ambulance showing up with all the lights and sirens."
At the hospital, the woman was operated on and the damage to her internal organs repaired. Her baby was found to be dead, and was removed.
There the matter would have ended, if not for the intervention of attorney, and former judge, Chris Sapp. Sapp filed suit on her behalf in the federal courts, arguing that the abortionist had violated the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act (FACE). FACE was passed to guarantee the right of women to receive reproductive health care. But if a woman had a right to enter a clinic to get an abortion, Sapp argued, she also has a right to leave a clinic in order to protect herself and her baby.
In calling for the abortionist to stop the procedure, Sapp argued, the woman was clearly invoking her rights under the FACE Act. By forcing the abortion procedure on her, and by preventing her from going immediately to a hospital where her pregnancy could have been saved, the abortionist violated her reproductive rights.(3)
Egherman's defense attorney's maintained that "if he [Egherman] had to go back in" in order to protect the woman's health, then this would not constitute a violation of the FACE Act. On a summary judgment, the appeals court agreed, even though the evidence shows that the abortion had scarcely begun when the woman called for the abortionist to stop the abortion, and that he went "back in" to perform the abortion against her will.
According to Sapp, "This ruling does establish a precedent for forced abortion." An expectant mother receiving a routine gynecological exam, for example, could be held down and forcibly aborted. The abortionist would merely have to argue that the abortion was necessary to protect the mother's health or life, and this would not be a violation of the FACE Act.
PRI has recently learned of another forced abortion in America. A 25-year-old Maryland woman, four months pregnant, changed her mind about having an abortion after being taken to the procedure room. She ran back to the clinic entrance where her boyfriend stopped her. You have to get an abortion, he told her. I've already paid for it. Three clinic workers and the abortionists surrounded the women, sedated her by injection, and then took her back into the procedure room. After the forced abortion, she
awoke in a closet.
Chris Sapp is determined to fight on. He is prepared to petition the U.S. Supreme Court for a writ of certiori acknowledging that a woman's right to say "no" to an abortion, at any point in time, is absolute, and that this right is found in the FACE Act.
ENDNOTES
1. DEPOSITION TESTIMONY OF WILLIAM P. EGHERMAN, M.D., UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT MIDDLE DISTRICT OF FLORIDA, ORLANDO DIVISION, AUGUST 28, 2002: JANE ROE, II, PLAINTIFF, VS. AWARE WOMEN CENTER FOR CHOICE, INC., EDWARD W. WINDLE, JR., PATRICIA B. WINDLE, WILLIAM P. EGHERMAN, M.D.,
DEFENDANTS; CASE NO.: 6:99-CV-850-ORL-19KRS.
2. Ibid., Deposition of William Egherman.
3. United States Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit, Jane Roe II vs. Aware Woman Center for Choice, January 23, 2004.
_________
Steve Mosher is the president of Population Research Institute, a non-profit organization dedicated to debunking the myth that the world is overpopulated.
__________
© 2004 Population Research Institute. Permission to reprint granted.Redistribute widely. Credit required.
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posted on
03/09/2004 7:35:20 PM PST
by
Coleus
(Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
To: Coleus; Maeve; american colleen; Domestic Church; AKA Elena; Askel5; B-Chan; Pyro7480; ...
Bump to Post # 34 by Coleus -- Read it, pray the Rosary, go to Adoration, make Communion of Reparation, get on the phones to Congress, write letters......
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posted on
03/09/2004 7:51:39 PM PST
by
Siobhan
(+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
To: narses
bump
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posted on
03/09/2004 7:58:11 PM PST
by
Siobhan
(+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
To: JohnHuang2
An appeals court ruled earlier this year an expectant mother can be aborted by force if the physician argues it is necessary to "protect the health of the mother." The editor at WND was caught snoozing. The expectant mother can be aborted? Is that a homicide? Sheesh!
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posted on
03/09/2004 8:02:18 PM PST
by
HitmanLV
(I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
To: Coleus
On 23 January 2004, in Jane Roe II vs. Aware Women Center for Choice, Inc., the Eleventh Circuit Court ruled that an expectant mother can be aborted by force if the abortionist argues that it is necessary to "protect the health of the mother." This is completely wrong from a medical standpoint. You cannot force anyone to submit to medical care. Every patient has a right to consent to or deny procedures, even if it would result in death. This right gets a little controversial in dealing with kids and psych patients but we try to honor it as much as possible.
This is a very, very dangerous court ruling.
To: nickcarraway
Bump
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posted on
03/09/2004 8:12:56 PM PST
by
Siobhan
(+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
To: HitmanNY
An appeals court ruled earlier this year an expectant mother can be aborted by force if the physician argues it is necessary to "protect the health of the mother."The common denominator, whether it be gay marriage, "euthanasia", or abortion is "the judges".
"The Judges" have decided that they are 'untouchables'..............that the legislative and executive branches of government are mere rubberstamps for whatever decree they issue.
They need to be taken down hard. Put back in their places.
They are not the final word as they have so many people believing; they continue only as long as We The People suffer it to be so.
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