California: Governor seeks "referendum proof" illegal alien driver license bill

KFI AM640, Los Angeles, John and Ken Show | March 8, 2004

[John Jorsett]

Just heard an appearance on the John and Ken show by Ron Prince, sponsor of the new Proposition 187-type initiative that (if it gets enough signatures) will appear on the November ballot. Prince reports that an associate was attending a meeting with Schwarzenegger aides, on the subject of how Republican candidates should handle their campaigns. In the course of the discussion, the question of the new illegal alien driver licenses came up. An aide answered, "Don't worry about that, we're going for a 'referendum-proof' version." It seems that if the legislature designates a bill as "urgent," two-thirds of the legislators vote for it, and it's signed by the governor, it becomes law immediately. That means there's no opportunity for a referendum as in non-urgent bills, the technique we used to persuade the legislature to repeal SB60. All that it would take for making SB 1160 (Democrat Assemblyman Gil Cedillo's new illegal alien driver's license bill) urgent is for two Republicans in the state Senate and six in the Assembly to vote for it. According to Prince, it appears that Schwarzenegger is planning on leaning on Republicans to vote for 1160.

It's not clear whether Schwarzenegger is going to succeed with this, but Prince says that the legislature is going to keep running at this until they win. The only way we can get them to stop this nonsense is to pass an initiative (like Prince's new "son of 187" initiative), which can't be overridden by the legislature. Prince says that his initiative needs another 200,000 signatures in the next 6 weeks. Go to www.Save187.com, download the petition, print it out (make sure you make a two-sided printout and not single-sided), sign it, get anyone else you can to sign it, and mail it in. I'm doing that myself right now. I'm fed up with this garbage and it's time to put a stop to it.

I'll also be writing a strong letter to the governor to let him know just how I feel about this attempted end-run around the people. If this turns out to be true, his new name will be Governor Judas as far as I'm concerned.

[Joe Hadenuf]

I've written letters and emails to many representatives in Government, including Cedillo. Unfortunately, not being from his district, nor a contributor to his party, I don't expect much response.

Cedillo could be your tenant and you wouldn't get a response.

[PRND21]

That's why we voted for McClintok.

Prince says that his initiative needs another 200,000 signatures in the next 6 weeks.

Lack of support seems to be a theme here.

[Joe Hadenuf]

While I enjoy the entertainment value you provide, I don't feel bla bla....

Feel free to go away now. Your jokes are weak. Vamoose!

[Joe Hadenuf]

That's why we voted for McClintok. Prince says that his initiative needs another 200,000 signatures in the next 6 weeks.

Lack of support seems to be a theme here.

Well jezzz PRND21, half the state is filled with illegal aliens. What would you expect?

[CWOJackson]

"At every new line in the sand, Arnold's apologists have had to back up and draw another."

LOL! This line is currently only in the minds of some of the usual suspects. But don't worry so much Sylvester, I'm sure when it's all said and done, and the facts are presented, you'll find another excuse to accuse the Governor of something. Or you can make it up.

[philetus]

I think the gov is attempting a coup and I think it bodes ill for the people.

[CWOJackson]

Sorry Joe Ineverhavenuf. I think I'll hang around a while.

[PRND21]

half the state is filled with illegal aliens. What would you expect?

Another xenophobic exaggeration?

[Joe Hadenuf]

Sorry Joe Ineverhavenuf. I think I'll hang around a while.

Yeah, it's OK if you hang around, but no more goofy jokes. If your going to get funny, please, make it funny. And no more of your phony laughs either.

:O

[Joe Hadenuf]

Are you here legally?

[CWOJackson]

"Yeah, it's OK if you hang around, but no more goofy jokes."

What? You're leaving? Without you around where will the humor be?

[AnimalLover]

Ping to read later

[Joe Hadenuf]

Hey, PRND21, what's your buddys handle, CWO mean? Does it mean, Choose World Order?

[CWOJackson]

Careful. If he gets too many echos bouncing around in there his head may explode.

[Texasforever]

Are you here legally?

So you have come to this huh? Joe you need a long vacation.

[Joe Hadenuf]

What? You're leaving? Without you around bla bla.

I told you CWO, if your going to make cute quips, make it funny dang it. There gunna start throwing tomatoes at you.

[CWOJackson]

Now you've done it.

Duck everyone, it could explode.

[CWOJackson]

Who's going to start throwing tomatoes Joe Ineverhavenuf? The voices in your head?

[Sabertooth]

*half the state is filled with illegal aliens. What would you expect?

**Another xenophobic exaggeration?

Is it xenophobic to oppose Illegals?

If not, then how can an obvious, figure-of-speech exaggeration about the number of Illegals here be a "xenophobic" exagerration?

You're playing the bait game again, PRND21. Why do you spend so much energy at it?

Why not come up with some posts of substance, just to show that you can?

[Texasforever]

Duck everyone, it could explode.

RUN AWAY RUN AWAY