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To: Cannoneer No. 4
"M-240G mounted to a humvee."

I dunno, a M240 is still only a 5.56mm. I think this is a pretty weak round to have mounted on a vehicle. I think I'd rather have the reach and clout provided by a MA-DEUCE cal .50 or even a MK19 40mm! That might be the tanker in me a talkin' but I was an Infantry Officer before I was a tanker and we put the MK19 on our FAV's and it worked great.

19 posted on 03/08/2004 5:44:56 PM PST by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: ExSoldier
I imagine anything larger than a SAW would be too heavy.
21 posted on 03/08/2004 5:57:32 PM PST by Spruce (Pres. J.F.Kerry would be an absolute disaster for western civilization.)
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To: ExSoldier
I dunno, a M240 is still only a 5.56mm. I think this is a pretty weak round to have mounted on a vehicle. I think I'd rather have the reach and clout provided by a MA-DEUCE cal .50 or even a MK19 40mm! That might be the tanker in me a talkin' but I was an Infantry Officer before I was a tanker and we put the MK19 on our FAV's and it worked great.

Actually, before last Christmas, when a local radio station did a "Toys for Tots" promotion, the Marines were there in force... It was pretty darned cold, and a bunch of these fine men were wearing nothing more than their dress blues. Anyway, they had a few trucks there, as well as 2 humvees... one with a M-2 mounted on the top, and the other with the auto grenade launcher... I mentioned that I could use one of those for my commute every morning...

Mark

23 posted on 03/08/2004 5:58:52 PM PST by MarkL (The meek shall inherit the earth... But usually in plots 6' x 3' x 6' deep...)
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To: ExSoldier; archy
Your coax was an M240, 7.62mm

The M249 SAW is 5.56mm.

Whatchu tink, archy?

24 posted on 03/08/2004 6:07:37 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (I always thought the Yankees had something to do with it.)
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To: ExSoldier; archy; river rat; Squantos; harpseal; SLB; sneakypete
Weight. Those guns weigh a LOT. The 240s are lighter.

I saw a picture of some real-deal SF humvees at the LV SHOT Show. (An SF secior NCO was there shopping, and we spent a long while chatting.) His modified hummers had NO doors,for faster exiting. They had FOUR 240 mounts, two on each side kind of like this picture, and two on the aft corners. These "raiding" humvees had special "running boards" along each side, and the back. There were special hand holds welded on. All loaded for a fast raid, they can carry 16 shooters, inside and hanging on! And they used these types of double-armed machine gun pivot mounts. (They also carried M-2 50 calibers and M-19 40mm guns.)


33 posted on 03/08/2004 9:17:20 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: ExSoldier
I dunno, a M240 is still only a 5.56mm. I think this is a pretty weak round to have mounted on a vehicle. I think I'd rather have the reach and clout provided by a MA-DEUCE cal .50 or even a MK19 40mm! That might be the tanker in me a talkin' but I was an Infantry Officer before I was a tanker and we put the MK19 on our FAV's and it worked great.

Nope. The M240 is a 7,62 NATO, the replacement for our aging M60 *pig* and the nearly worthless M73/M219 GE co-ax. Essentially the FN-MAG used by numerous other armies worldwide, notably the Brits as the L7 *Gimpy* [From GIn'ril PUrpose MAchineY-gun, the way a Brit pronounces it] and now, happilly, the Australians as well. Seems the Israelis and Rhodesians were on to a good thing back in the 1960s and '70s, too good to keep to themselves.

But that's not to suggest that the M249 SAW and other versions of the 5,56mm FN mini-version of the GPMG don't have their uses as well. Cranked up to its highest rate of fire, the SAW puts out 20 rounds of 5,56mm per second at 1200 rounds per minute...and from a vehicle mount meant for a M240 or M2 .50 caliber, a pair of guns can be fitted...that's a LOT of firepower. See what one happy user of the M249 SAW thinks of it *here.* The comments made by my Australian pal who uses one of their F89 version are firmly in agreement; these things are really the modern descendent of the much-loved Browning Automatic Rifle...or, to the Brits, their old Bren Gun.


39 posted on 03/08/2004 11:42:48 PM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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