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The Passion and the Jews
LewRockwell.com | 3/8/04 | Paul Gottfried

Posted on 03/08/2004 11:15:40 AM PST by philosofy123

Understandably, because Paul Gottfried is an editor of The American Conservative and so is John Zmirak, the magazine would not publish this letter to the editor. LRC is, of course, delighted to do so.

John Zmirak (in The American Conservative) has written a forceful and timely defense of Mel Gibson’s reverential cinematic treatment of The Passion of the Christ, and one can find much to admire in his criticism of Christianity-bashers. One can never vent enough contempt in dealing with the whiney Abe Foxman, who is beginning to surpass even Al Sharpton as a victimological nudnik. Zmirak rightly stresses that anti-anti-Semites dislike pious Christians more than they like Jews. He is also fair enough to point out the artistic defects in Gibson’s work while praising its inspirational aspect.

But there are two details in John’s arguments that merit critical attention. Although I too find excitement in C.S. Lewis’s bold assertion, "Jesus was either the Son of God or a wicked, deranged imposter," this either/or seems in retrospect overstated. Certainly one can thrill to Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount or his magnificent parables without having to find in them the revelation of his divine status as presented in John, Chapter One. One might even reasonably contend that Jesus’s sublime moral teaching has led some into accepting his divinity. I’m not sure how credible as a savior someone would seem who might otherwise be taken for a "wicked impostor." John also suggests that the only religious choice available to Jews in the first century was either the acceptance of the divine Jesus or the "highest, purest religion," which was then Rabbinic Judaism.

This was not quite the case. Jesus was living an age of Jewish religious ferment, in which the eventual victory of the Pharisees was still not assured. Both the Jews’ exile at the hands of the Romans and, ironically, the rise of Christianity would help turn the Pharisaical tradition into normative Judaism. But while Jesus was arguing with the Scribes, Talmudic Judaism was certainly not the only other Jewish game in town. Hellenizers, Essenes, and other distinctive Jewish groups still abounded two thousand years ago.

Finally, unlike John, I am not impressed by Bill Buckley’s protégé, David Klinghoffer, who in a forthcoming book cites Rabbinic condemnations of Jesus as an authoritative Jewish judgment. These charges are at the very least historically irrelevant, having been inserted into the Babylonian Talmud (in tractate Sanhedrin) centuries after the events described. By the time these invectives against Jesus as a blasphemer made an appearance, the Christians whom these Rabbis encountered were a non-Jewish religious minority living in Babylonia in the fifth century. They were also, by the way, mostly Monophysites whose views on the nature of Christ put them at odds with both Rome and Constantinople. For all of these reasons, it seems unjustified to build a Jewish case against the New Testament on what was produced in anger by those who were mostly ignorant of Jesus’s life. Which is not to say that fifth-century Roman Christianity would have attracted Rabbinic critics of Jesus, if they had studied its theology. Such an assumption is unfounded. What is being challenged is the binding nature for Jews of the Talmudic approval of Jesus’s execution, an expression of support that was based on hearsay and was unrelated to the event.

Having opened a can of worms, allow me to dig into it more deeply. A recent interview in the Israeli newspaper Maariv with the former Israeli minister of labor and a leading spokesman for the Sephardic Orthodox party Shlomo Beniziri, revealed what traditional Rabbinic Jews still believe about the death of Jesus. On the basis of the received Talmudic account, Beniziri proclaims that the Gospel story is "nonsense." The Orthodox leader goes on to explain that Jesus was a rebellious student in a Rabbinic academy, who after a proper judicial proceeding, was executed by the Sanhedrin. The judges "took him to a high roof and threw him crashing to the ground." To send a message to others, the Sanhedrin then took his lifeless body and displayed it on a crossbeam. Note that all of this is unrelieved fantasy, which cannot be attributed to Christian persecution of Jews. The relevant Talmudic statements came from Jews living in a non-Christian society; and Maimonides, who famously expanded on this interpretation, and Rabbi Beniziri were born and grew up in non-Western Muslim countries.

While there are real theological differences that separate Jews and Christians, the offensive references to Jesus that by now everyone knows about should have about as much standing as a truth-claim as the view that all Jews are Christ-killers. Perhaps it is time for Abe Foxman and the editorial board of the New Republic to give at least some consideration to the festering problem of Jewish bigotry. It is for me inconceivable that such a sentiment has nothing to do with why American Jewish organizations appeal successfully to their donor base by evoking the specter of Christian traditionalists. This is happening not in Tsarist Russia but in a country founded by Protestant sectarians, who have never persecuted Jews, and the campaign of fear and loathing is being directed against enthusiastically philosemitic Christians.

It is unlikely that contemporary Jews have forgotten entirely about medieval Rabbinic prejudices. American and Canadian Jews are at most three generations removed from Eastern European ghettos where the inhabitants certainly listened to Rabbi Beniziri’s pseudo-history. As a boy, I recall that "religious" Jews were always fuming against Christians, including those who treated them well, and that the Rabbinic narratives about Jesus always had a way of surfacing during these invectives. In short, the myth had a way of trumping truth. One might hear from one and the same person the historical fact, that ancient Jews had lost their right under Roman rule to execute anyone generations before Jesus’s death, and then the mind-boggling Talmudic narrative. If the historical fact is correct, then the Rabbinic account is fictive. But while being fictive, it is also gratuitously nasty; and since it has no Jewish legal standing, it might be nice if Jewish religious authorities disavowed this garbled account.

But such an honorable course would have no more appeal to Jews qua Christian victims than admitting the truth about black Africans keeping and selling slaves would have for American civil rights leaders. It is easier to have public fits about the bigotry embedded in the Gospels or in the hearts of white people than to acknowledge the questionable legacies of designated victims. Liberal Christians are the classical enablers in both situations. Why should Jews reassess their own history of prejudice when they enjoy the status of Christian victims, courtesy of the Christian world? In this situation, David Klinghoffer, Abe Foxman, and Elie Wiesel will all go on sharing the fruits of moral success. And this is bad for Jews and Christians alike.


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1 posted on 03/08/2004 11:15:41 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: philosofy123
I saw The Passion this last weekend. No where in this movie does anti-semitism rear it's ugly head. This movie accurately reflected the times in which the story took place. The Jewish elders wanted Christ crucified but there were many Jews in the general population who did not. This was the story according to the gospel accounts. I truly believe that those who are trying to stir up this anti jewish hatred are out of their minds and are parnoid to begin with. It's time those with hatred on their minds stop trying to stir it up again and read their Bibles for the true account of Christ's death and ressurection. Maybe they'll learn something!
2 posted on 03/08/2004 11:25:24 AM PST by Lucky2 (Before I die, I want Bill and Hillary tried for treason and jailed (executed) for their crimess.)
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To: philosofy123
Although I too find excitement in C.S. Lewis’s bold assertion, "Jesus was either the Son of God or a wicked, deranged imposter," this either/or seems in retrospect overstated. Certainly one can thrill to Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount or his magnificent parables without having to find in them the revelation of his divine status as presented in John, Chapter One. One might even reasonably contend that Jesus’s sublime moral teaching has led some into accepting his divinity.

Nope, Lewis was right. Either the accounts are accurate, divinity & all, or they are deceptions, in which case why would one accept any of the moral teaching?

3 posted on 03/08/2004 11:40:57 AM PST by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: Lucky2
I agree
4 posted on 03/08/2004 11:46:21 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: philosofy123
Liberal Christians are the classical enablers in both situations. Why should Jews reassess their own history of prejudice when they enjoy the status of Christian victims, courtesy of the Christian world? In this situation, David Klinghoffer, Abe Foxman, and Elie Wiesel will all go on sharing the fruits of moral success.

This article boils down to recognizing, in essence, the same enemy I saw in the Sanhedrin in Gibson's TPOTC. Backstabbing politicians and liberal activist judges. That's the modern analogy for the impression I got from the movie; not 'Jews.'

The enemy tries to hide behind many faces but here and now they are all liberal leftists.

5 posted on 03/08/2004 12:08:24 PM PST by TigersEye (Carrying a gun is a social obligation.)
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To: philosofy123; johnb2004; Romulus; eastsider; Diago; AnAmericanMother; saradippity; sandyeggo; ...
When I was told what S. Beniziri was reported to have said, I thought it was actually a joke. Now I am going to dig through Ma ariv and see what I can find.

Pinging to others who may find this letter provocative.

6 posted on 03/08/2004 12:51:29 PM PST by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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To: philosofy123; johnb2004; Romulus; eastsider; Diago; AnAmericanMother; saradippity; sandyeggo
IsraelInsider Newsmagazine:

Meanwhile, Yishai's colleague in the ultra-Orthodox Sephardic party, former minister of labor and social affairs Shlomo Benizri, told a Haredi pirate radio station a number of weeks ago that the Jews did, in fact, kill Jesus. "According to Torah law, they decided to hang Jesus."

Benizri, who confirmed the comments yesterday, said Jesus was put to death according to Sanhedrin (ancient Jewish court) tradition, Maariv reported. "They took him up to a high roof, and threw him crashing to the ground. Afterwards they hung his body on wooden beams in the shape of a "T," but not as the Christian legends say that he was crucified. That's nonsense."

Benizri told Maariv that Jesus' death was an internal Jewish affair. "What is there to deny? We're talking about a yeshiva student who left Judaism, and the Sanhedrin put him to death."


7 posted on 03/08/2004 1:16:45 PM PST by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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To: Lucky2
I truly believe that those who are trying to stir up this anti jewish hatred are out of their minds

It is bizarre (in a sick sort of way) that people who say they fear a backlash against Jews seem to be urging it on.

8 posted on 03/08/2004 1:30:01 PM PST by Dataman
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To: Sloth
Nope, Lewis was right.

Lewis is exactly right.

9 posted on 03/08/2004 1:31:54 PM PST by Dataman
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To: Siobhan
"They took him up to a high roof, and threw him crashing to the ground. Afterwards they hung his body on wooden beams in the shape of a "T," but not as the Christian legends say that he was crucified. That's nonsense."

Hahahaha! That's not even as original as the discredited swoon theory. Such foolishness only testifies that Jesus was indeed the Messiah. If he were just a man, why all the effort to discredit him?

10 posted on 03/08/2004 1:37:07 PM PST by Dataman
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To: BibChr
Jesus was a shoe salesman who offended the Pharisees with a revealing open-toed sneaker.
11 posted on 03/08/2004 1:39:37 PM PST by Dataman
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To: Lucky2
After the man who helped Jesus carry the cross was told to leave the scene, there is an interaction between him and one of the Roman soldiers, where the soldier spits the epithet:"...Jew!"

That is the one instance of antisemitism I saw in the film.

I am sorry to affirm that the description of Jewish attitudes toward Jesus and Christians is accurate. It has taken me until the past decade or so to unlearn what I thought I knew of this. Hopefully, other Jews are experiencing something similar. For me, it took the reaction of Leftist Jews toward my Evangelical Christian friends to force me to begin to reevaluate everything I thought I knew.

My husband is a moderate Protestant and nothing prejudicial was ever apparent in his attitudes over the past 30 years, despite his mother being convinced that getting a bargain was a tenet of Judaism. She is gone now and I must add that this was an innocent error on her part, something she had somehow absorbed and never thought about. She was otherwise a sweet woman and a lady in all things.

40 years ago I would have been amazed if someone had told me that in the future I would count Christians as closer trusted friends than my fellow Jews, but it is true.

I have to add that this troubles me deeply and I have no way to change the minds of the Jews and the secularists I know, so, unfortunately, I see less of them and do not discuss much of any depth when I do.
13 posted on 03/08/2004 3:34:00 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Siobhan
Wow ... what a grotesque quote.
14 posted on 03/08/2004 3:41:44 PM PST by Askel5
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To: HaloStatue
Thank you for your informative post and for opening yourself to show the pain of a real injustice.

I have no answers. The tradition in which I was raised (intellectual Orthodoxy) covered over the Talmudic teachings you quote. Thank you for them. It will give me more to think about.

I think you have your answer, though. I think the people you reference do want us separated, the further the better. The New Covenant is threatening. If we don't know each other, then how could we ever communicate or heal old wounds?
15 posted on 03/08/2004 3:43:50 PM PST by reformedliberal
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It's sad that these attitudes are still around today. The Passion depicted a sign of the times. The Roman guard who spit the epithet Jew was a product of his time. It was just the way it was. Antisemitism was normal during those times. Many Jews and Romans alike disliked Jesus and did not trust him. There are many among us today who feel the same way. Too bad that we all aren't more enlightened as Jesus was.

16 posted on 03/08/2004 3:56:07 PM PST by Lucky2 (Before I die, I want Bill and Hillary tried for treason and jailed (executed) for their crimess.)
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To: HaloStatue
The film actually hinted that there wasn't even a legally constituted Sanderhin present. Many of its members weren't informed of the meeting, and those who dissented were thrown out.

My recollection is that an overwhelming majority of the full Sanderhin is required to pass a sentence of execution.

17 posted on 03/08/2004 4:14:47 PM PST by ambrose ("John Kerry has blood of American soldiers on his hands" - Lt. Col. Oliver North)
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To: HaloStatue
This only points to a mutual history of nasty name-calling by extremists on both sides. However, it can't be forgotten who had vast numerical superiority and was in a position to act on their prejudices by force, for the past 2000 years.

By the way, it is unlikely that a secular Jew has any idea what is said in the Talmud, and the Orthodox Jews have been largely silent, or even supportive, re The Passion.
19 posted on 03/08/2004 4:19:51 PM PST by ambrose ("John Kerry has blood of American soldiers on his hands" - Lt. Col. Oliver North)
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To: ambrose
and the Orthodox Jews have been largely silent, or even supportive, re The Passion.

Huh? You've been following a TOTALLY different story than I have. Micheal Medved and Dennis Prager sure, but Orthodox Jews....sing me another song. http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,8814988%255E1702,00.html

20 posted on 03/08/2004 4:41:19 PM PST by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Treason doth never prosper, for if it does, none dare call it treason)
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