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American Blacks, Homosexual Marriage, and Aristide: A Correlation
R. DeWynne Brown, III ^ | March 8, 2K4 | R. DeWynne Brown, III

Posted on 03/08/2004 10:00:49 AM PST by rdb3

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Show 'em my motto!

1 posted on 03/08/2004 10:00:50 AM PST by rdb3
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To: mhking; farmfriend; jwalsh07; section9; Common Tator; Southack; Sabertooth
For your consideration.


Show 'em my motto!

2 posted on 03/08/2004 10:01:50 AM PST by rdb3 (The Servant of Jehovah is the Christ of Calvary and of the empty tomb. <><)
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To: rdb3
"While this does not portend a major political shift among American blacks"

If Bush makes this a big issue, it may. There has never been an issue where the Democratic Party has been more at odds with its own base. What the 50/50 nation people forget is that the Democratic Party is still "leaving" its constituents... just as it was in the 60's, 70's, 80's. It left me 2 years ago... It is leaving African-Americans now.
3 posted on 03/08/2004 10:08:02 AM PST by Betaille (The city put the country back in me)
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To: Betaille
It left me 2 years ago... It is leaving African-Americans now.

We can hope.


Show 'em my motto!

4 posted on 03/08/2004 10:14:54 AM PST by rdb3 (The Servant of Jehovah is the Christ of Calvary and of the empty tomb. <><)
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May God bless the Boston black clergy for their strong moral stand.
5 posted on 03/08/2004 10:20:58 AM PST by King Black Robe (With freedom of religion and speech now abridged, it is time to go after the press.)
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To: rdb3
BTTT
6 posted on 03/08/2004 10:21:31 AM PST by cyborg (In die begin het God die hemel en die aarde geskape.)
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To: King Black Robe
May God bless the Boston black clergy for their strong moral stand.

They said in the link I posted that they are "progressive" in their politics. That's not shocking. I think that their church members were raising a stink about these so-called marriages, so they had to say something.


Show 'em my motto!

7 posted on 03/08/2004 10:28:09 AM PST by rdb3 (The Servant of Jehovah is the Christ of Calvary and of the empty tomb. <><)
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Well God bless their brave church members then. Thanks for the clarification.
8 posted on 03/08/2004 10:33:06 AM PST by King Black Robe (With freedom of religion and speech now abridged, it is time to go after the press.)
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To: rdb3
That is why Kerry will have problems. He has to walk a tightrope, and with Nader in the mix, it could come back to bite him.
9 posted on 03/08/2004 10:35:41 AM PST by hchutch (Why did the Nazgul bother running from Arwen's flash flood? They only managed to die tired.)
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To: rdb3; Carry_Okie; forester; sasquatch; B4Ranch; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; knews_hound; ...
Most excellent article!!!
10 posted on 03/08/2004 10:39:05 AM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: King Black Robe
As far as PC goes, the Jews have "holocaust" essentially trademarked, and all efforts to equate other suffering to the holocaust are rejected. Likewise, black activists in America essentially have the term "civil rights" trademarked and reject any effort to equate other movements with theirs. Jesse Jackson likes his monopoly on civil rights guilt, and doesn't want anyone else using it.

I'm not necessarily advocating homosexual marriage (actually, I really don't care since it doesn't impact my marriage), but the civil rights trademark, rather than morals, could be the motivation behind these preachers rejecting homosexual marriage.

11 posted on 03/08/2004 10:40:42 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: rdb3

Good post, It will be interesting to see how calculated the "Aristide was kidnapped" spin actually was. Some of these folks are reflexive America haters.

Either way, it won't change Black perceptions about same sex marriage.

In morally equating the homosexual agenda with the Civil Rights struggle, the Left has unwittingly said that Blacks are the moral equivalents of homosexuals.


12 posted on 03/08/2004 10:50:02 AM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
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To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!!
13 posted on 03/08/2004 10:51:54 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: King Black Robe
Well God bless their brave church members then. Thanks for the clarification.

Well, this isn't necessarily a "clarification." This is my gut talking here. I'm thinking that the church members in Boston were raising a fuss, therefore the pastors spoke out on it.

Just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.


Show 'em my motto!

14 posted on 03/08/2004 11:01:02 AM PST by rdb3 (The Servant of Jehovah is the Christ of Calvary and of the empty tomb. <><)
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Black conservative ping

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15 posted on 03/08/2004 11:04:16 AM PST by mhking
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To: rdb3
Democrats can not afford to lose this demographic.

But it would be best for "this demographic" if they were to lose the Democrats.

16 posted on 03/08/2004 11:11:08 AM PST by spodefly (I am compelled to place text in this area.)
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Interesting post on another thread
I spent much time in Haiti, was one of the primary planners of election security for their first free election in 300 years, served on Aristede's personal body guard detail (He's a weird dude with a lot of Michael Jackson like tastes if you catch my drift)

17 posted on 03/08/2004 11:18:03 AM PST by george wythe
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"The clamoring about Aristide serves as a diversion away from the homosexual marriage issue, and as a means to fire up black voters for the upcoming election due to the perceived racism of the Republicans."

Even this "diversion" is ill-thought-out by the Democrats.

After all, replacing Black Aristide with an all Black Haitian leadership is hardly the fodder of hysterical cries of "Racism."

President Bush can easily defuse such Democratic nonsense by *inviting* the new Black Haitian leadership to the White House for a photo op...at which point the American liberal Black leadership will be forced to either back the new Black Haitian leadership or to back out-of-power Aristide.

18 posted on 03/08/2004 11:24:51 AM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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"If Bush makes this a big issue, it may. There has never been an issue where the Democratic Party has been more at odds with its own base."

That's true, but let us not minimize the many *other* major internal conflicts within the current Democratic Party.

To wit: Blacks are for school vouchers, Democrats are against them. Catholics are against abortions, Democrats are for them. Rural America is for gun rights, Democrats are against them. Unions want the jobs from drilling in Alaska, Democrats are against drilling for oil in Alaska.

Nor is the gay marriage issue limited only to Blacks. It definitely impacts Hispanics en masse and blue collar Americans in general.

19 posted on 03/08/2004 11:29:50 AM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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Aristide has issued a statement today that he is, in fact, still president of Haiti. We shall see where that takes him.

But one thing that is missed in all these stories is that the CBC was unable themselves to get Aristide to BEHAVE and act like a human being.

If they want to support this perverted murderer, let them. It bodes ill for them.

I love the White House photo op suggestion though!
20 posted on 03/08/2004 11:51:17 AM PST by Howlin (Charter Member of the Incredible Interlocking Institutional Power!!!!)
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