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Female Bonding, Punctuated by Gunfire
NY Times ^ | 3-8-04 | ALAN FEUER

Posted on 03/08/2004 3:00:22 AM PST by Pharmboy


Keith Bedford for The New York Times

From left, Lea Sevcik, Sandy Cobden and Julia Cohen in a meeting of the Women's Shooting Sports League at the
Westside Rifle and Pistol Range in Chelsea. Begun last year, the league has grown to a core of 15 to 20 members, its
founder says.

In New York City, it is a rule of thumb among the legal community that the First Amendment comes first, and the Second Amendment comes last.

New York is not a gun town. With some of the toughest gun laws in the country, it can take upward of 18 months to get a license for your longarm, even if the most you care to do is head upstate for a weekend turkey shoot.

There is, though, a small but enthusiastic shooting culture in the city, and one place to find its members is at meetings of the Women's Shooting Sports League, which gathers the first Monday of each month in Chelsea for a night of rifle fire and female bonding.

"When people think of gun owners, they think of butt-scratching bubbas with no teeth," said Amy Heath, the league's founder. "Women in the heartland shoot well, so why not women in New York?"

It may be that no breed of humanity is less friendly to the firearm than the female Manhattanite, and yet the league, which began last year with only five members, has expanded this year to a core of 15 to 20 regulars, Ms. Heath said.


Keith Bedford for The New York Times

Marjorie Folkman, left, and Julia Cohen during target practice. At the league's meetings, members also learn firearm safety
from instructors. Ms. Cohen, a constitutional lawyer, said she considered herself "the opposite of people in rooms like
this."

They meet at the Westside Rifle and Pistol Range on West 20th Street, where they learn the rudiments of firearm safety from instructors and spend an hour or so cooking off a few hundred rounds of ammunition on the line.

To Ms. Heath, who is 33 and went into making television documentaries after giving up an acting career, the league is the culmination of a childhood spent among guns.

She was born in San Diego, moved to Plano, Tex., and spent her adolescence in Rochester, Mich., 40 minutes north of Detroit - a gun-friendly community, she said.

"There's this fear, this incessant fear, that guns are bad," she said. "Women think they'll shoot themselves in the foot, or shoot someone else. I want to work against that fear."

She comes from the appropriate stock. Her grandfather, Jeff Cooper (U.S.M.C., retired), sits on the board of the National Rifle Association and is widely considered the father of modern pistol technique. Mr. Cooper also writes "Jeff Cooper's Commentaries," a regular Internet newsletter where one can find his blunt, plainspoken musings on the world, which recently included this:

"Bear in mind that it is more blessed to give than to receive. I know a certain amount about naval gunfire, and I am certainly impressed with the truth of that proposition.''

If it is tricky to imagine some Manhattan publicist in miniskirt and leather boots taking target practice with a Ruger .22, consider what Ms. Heath's relations in Michigan think about her current home.

"They think I'm crazy," she explained with a self-effacing laugh. "People always say, 'Jeff Cooper's daughter lives in New York?' "

There is much to learn from the league about the failure of assumptions. While one might assume, for instance, that the city's reputation for tolerance extends to all manner of behavior, it apparently does not extend to a love of guns.

"It's tough to be a shooter down here," said Peter Crowell, a 60-year-old management consultant and a volunteer instructor for the league. "New York is, of course, primarily a liberal Democratic kind of place, and over years I've had to hide my interest.

"If you've never taken delivery of a hundred rounds of small-arms ammunition at your apartment," he went on coyly with a smile, "I can tell you, it's a treat."

At the same time, it would be wrong to assume that the members of the league are all of the Republican persuasion or even interested in their Second Amendment right to bear arms.

"I consider myself the opposite of people in rooms like this," said Julia Cohen, a constitutional lawyer who recently joined the league. "I'm a Democrat. I'm a liberal. And I believe that guns are dangerous in the wrong hands."

Ms. Cohen said she considered shooting a precision art form, much like darts, and found her time with the Ruger an "almost Zen sort of thing." Although she said that politics were far from her mind when she joined, she discovered that the task of getting licensed was much more difficult than she had thought.

While filling out her license application at police headquarters, she was surprised to find that the authorities wished to know if she had ever seen a psychiatrist or taken narcotics. She said the process was more intrusive than her application to the state bar association.

"They asked all these probing personal questions that didn't necessarily prove that I, as a thinking person, could or couldn't handle a gun," she said.

Generally speaking, Ms. Heath goes light on the activism at the meetings, leaving politics to the politicos. This may be why Patrick Brophy, director of political activities for the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association, was standing around at the meeting last month dressed in a rep tie and expensive-looking suit.

Mr. Brophy is not that busy, given that his political action committee did not support a single state official from any New York City district last year, which leaves him time to plug the merits of shooting at league meetings, at least when reporters are around.

"People who perhaps have never had the opportunity to enjoy the shooting sports should have that opportunity," he said, quickly adding, "without any preconceived notions."

Notions are one thing; politics is another. It seemed as if the women of the shooting league had simpler things in mind.

"Oh, yeah, I had a great time," one young woman said coming off the line. "I shot some balloons."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; bang; banglist; guns; jeffcooper; nyc; shooting; women
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To: Pharmboy; Shooter 2.5; Travis McGee; river rat; weaponeer; Joe Brower; Lazamataz
BELLY GIRL Alert, post #13.

Not sure what she's holding, maybe a Colt Anaconda?- ammmo looks like 44mag or 44Spl.

21 posted on 03/08/2004 11:53:19 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: xsrdx
My book says it's a Taurus but not sure of the model or caliber.
22 posted on 03/08/2004 12:04:12 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: xsrdx


23 posted on 03/08/2004 12:15:28 PM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: Pharmboy; dd5339; cavtrooper21
I don't think you could pay me enough to live in NYC...
24 posted on 03/08/2004 12:37:57 PM PST by Vic3O3 (Jeremiah 31:16-17 (KJV))
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To: Vic3O3
Hold out for the best offer...
25 posted on 03/08/2004 12:59:57 PM PST by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: risk
Jeff Cooper is known as the Father of American Pistolcraft and is a LEGEND in gun circles. I believe he was a Colonel in the USMC reserves and served I think in WWII in the Pacific theatre or perhaps it was Korea. He is in his 80's so I'm inclined to think WWII. I have corresponded with him on several occasions and a number of my friends are graduates of the American Pistol Institute otherwise known as GUNSITE which he founded and still teaches at today.

He has a monthly column in "Guns and Ammo" magazine known as "Cooper's Corner." But I highly recommend his two books: "The Gargantuan Gunsite Gossip" which is a huge collection of quotes on guns, the so called gun culture and the real America. Also, "To Ride, Shoot Straight, and Speak the Truth" I have them both and treasure them to the point that I don't loan them, ever. I think the first may be out of print, but the second is probably available. I bought Gunsite Gossip at a gunshow and the other at a bookstore.

I seriously doubt he was ever a CIA operative. He evinces a lot of distaste for that crew and the intelligence field in general.

Consider a "Cooperism" from Gunsite Gossip: "Blessed is he, who in the face of death, thinks ONLY of the Front Sight."

26 posted on 03/08/2004 1:06:16 PM PST by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: xsrdx
Hmmm...I guess size DOES matter.
27 posted on 03/08/2004 1:15:39 PM PST by Ranxerox
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To: risk
Gals with guns ROCK!

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28 posted on 03/08/2004 8:45:31 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: xsrdx
Looks like a Taurus Tracker. 357 Mag/ 41 Mag/ 44 Spl./ 45 Colt versions.
29 posted on 03/08/2004 9:14:19 PM PST by Rockpile
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To: ExSoldier
I believe he was a Colonel in the USMC reserves and served I think in WWII in the Pacific theatre or perhaps it was Korea. He is in his 80's so I'm inclined to think WWII

Lt. Col. Served in Korea and in WW-II, in the Pacific theater. IIRC, He has a "kill" with a 1911A1. It was in Korea, from a moving jeep I believe. :)

His Commentaries are available on several websites. The one I have bookmarked is http://www.dvc.org.uk/~johnny/jeff/. : another ishttp://www.molonlabe.net/Commentaries/

A whole list of links to the commentaries can be found on Father Frog's page Read about Lt. Col. Cooper here or here

30 posted on 03/08/2004 9:40:04 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: thefactor
i guess that picture was taken right before they told ms. cohen "finger off trigger and always look DOWNrange."

Huh? Ms. Cohen has one hand on the forestock and the other hand several inches from her rifle. Ms. Ocben has one hand on the forestock and the other completely behind the trigger guard. I can't see what Ms. Sevcik's left index finger is doing, but I don't think it's flexed.

31 posted on 03/08/2004 10:56:09 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: supercat
no, the other picture below the first one.
32 posted on 03/08/2004 11:26:10 PM PST by thefactor
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To: thefactor
no, the other picture below the first one.

Ah, okay. Though I don't see where her trigger finger is, it could be behind the rear of the trigger guard which would be a perfectly-safe place. And if something demands attention, isn't the proper action to look at it (with finger in a safe place, which it may or may not be in this picture) while keeping the gun pointed downrange? Actually, learning to turn one's head without instinctively pointing what one's holding in the same direction is probably a very good thing for an instructor to teach.

33 posted on 03/08/2004 11:39:48 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: thefactor
Should have told her to practice keeping that other eye open too.
34 posted on 03/08/2004 11:49:35 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: thefactor
I think she is demostrating how to hit the bullseye without looking.
35 posted on 03/08/2004 11:53:28 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: xsrdx
Nice piece.
36 posted on 03/09/2004 1:08:37 AM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: El Gato
"Col" Cooper is a hoot to read - just when I figure he's gone right off the deep end, he'll write something I COULDN'T AGREE WITH MORE. He's an unapologetic - if occasionally pedantic - bona fide ass kicker.

I don't agree with him all the time - Scout Rifle, anyone? - but for the most part he's a national treasure.

37 posted on 03/09/2004 6:15:10 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: Pharmboy

A "What a great article and thread" BUMP!


39 posted on 11/18/2004 3:08:40 PM PST by Pagey (Hillary talking about the bible is as hypocritical as Bill carrying one out of church for 8 years)
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Wow...how in the world did you find this old post? I had forgotten about it; glad you resurrected it.


40 posted on 11/18/2004 5:17:57 PM PST by Pharmboy (Listen...you can still hear the old media sobbing.)
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