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Mt.Rainer School Help
3/7/04 | Students of L.M.S.

Posted on 03/07/2004 1:11:52 PM PST by bigmike2000

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To: bigmike2000
One thing to keep in mind is you can have a massive disaster at Mt. Rainier killing thousands of people WITH NO ERUPTION AT ALL.

Much of the mountain could simply collapse suddenly without warning, leading to a massive debris flow extending miles through populated areas. One myth is that this would require an eruption; it does not. Hot water circulating through the volcano is rotting it from within, and part of it could simply collapse through gravity without warning at any time.

21 posted on 03/07/2004 2:23:42 PM PST by John H K
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To: John H K
Google has everything you ever would want to know, it is your friend.
22 posted on 03/07/2004 2:26:45 PM PST by cajungirl (John Kerry has no botox and I have a bridge to sell you!)
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To: bigmike2000
I am an environmental technician in Washington State and have done some evaluation of geologic hazards. Mt Rainier is a significant threat; there are heavily urbanized areas sitting atop the debris fields of past lahars, some of which are 500 feet deep. While the Rainier does pose a threat, Glacier Peak to the northeast of Seattle is regarded by many to be the most dangerous volcano in the Cascades. It has a history of building lava domes along its flanks which are very unstable and in the past has created very large debris flows. A volcanic eruption is not required for significant events to occur; heavy rains, mudslides, and quickly changing temperatures can initiate disaster. If a major event were to occur on either of these two peaks, the ability of the authorities do do anything but sit and watch (and run like hell) is zero.
23 posted on 03/07/2004 2:58:17 PM PST by stormer
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To: bigmike2000
While stationed at Ft. Lewis I read that an eruption of Ranier would put 11 cubic miles of debris in Puget Sound.

Oh, and Ranier beer tastes like watered down Pearl.

24 posted on 03/07/2004 3:00:29 PM PST by Feckless
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Thank you all for your help today. Please continue posting whatever else you happen to know. Just a reminder: I dont expect you to do any work just to share what you already know. I've used alot of your info and really appreciate it.


25 posted on 03/07/2004 6:09:40 PM PST by bigmike2000
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To: bigmike2000
Here's something that might be helpful....

http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/pc/abtus/ourorg/dem/EMDiv/Mt%20Rainier%20VHRP.htm
26 posted on 03/07/2004 6:09:43 PM PST by goodnesswins (The Democrat "Funeral" is on.....dum..dum..di...dum.)
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To: TheConservator
My great-aunt from Georgia mispronounced it ' Pull-y'all-up"
27 posted on 03/08/2004 4:01:34 PM PST by irishtenor ("Trying is the first step toward failure." - Homer Simpson)
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To: bigmike2000; 007Dawg; 11B3; 123easy; 1911A1; 7mmMag@LeftCoast; A44MAGNUT; Abram; Acrobat; ...
Maybe some of our Washington State folks can help you out.

Washington State Ping List

28 posted on 03/08/2004 4:04:37 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (We should never ever apologize for who we are, what we believe in, and what we stand for.)
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To: Don W
My husband says it's "PEW-WALLOP", and he was born here. For what it's worth.

29 posted on 03/08/2004 4:09:19 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (You need tons click "co-ordinating")
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To: Don W
"Actually, it's closer to poo-yal-lup........... That's part of the little ditty they use to advertise their annual fair."

I see the flag you fly is not from Washington State. Where did you hear an advertisement for the Puyallup Fair?

TheConservator is correct. The pronunciation is Pew-al-up. Probably whoever is doing the add is not from around here. I hear lots of "new" News anchors who don't know how to pronounce the names of places.

30 posted on 03/08/2004 4:35:11 PM PST by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: Spunky
I live just across the pond on Vancouver Island. We get 8 or 9 US local stations (KING,KOMO,KSTW, etc)with cable, and several without
31 posted on 03/08/2004 4:37:50 PM PST by Don W (To liberals, the separation of church and state only applies when the power of the state increases)
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To: bigmike2000
required to do a report on Mt.Rainier and what the government plans to do in case of an eruption

Well, the Liberals will most likely run amuck through the major urban areas, looting and stealing everything they can get their hands on... then, they will turn against each other killing, raping, stealing etc... untill all resources are consumed.

Then, as they begin to move into the rural areas, their rampage will be greeted by gun-owning americans who were prepared for the disaster. They will try to steal food, medicine, etc... but will recieve only hot lead.

Hope this helps! ;0)

32 posted on 03/08/2004 5:55:53 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I hope my posts didn't incontinence anyone...)
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To: bigmike2000
Have you contact FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency or Act(?), especially at the state level?
33 posted on 03/08/2004 7:54:05 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: bigmike2000
http://www.uccs.edu/~geogenvs/ges199/rainier/evac.htm

See here for the Orting evac plan...
My 83 year old Grandmother plays cards at one of the local animal lodges (elks, eagles, etc..) and they have signs up all over the place about what to do...
I personally think they at the lodge would grab a drink and watch...
The town is like an island...surrounded by 2 rivers...
Basically it doesn't look good for any of the area if a major eruption happens.

Hope you can get to the link...
34 posted on 03/08/2004 9:33:07 PM PST by M0sby (PROUD USMC WIFE!)
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To: Don W
Nah...for sure it is Pew (rhymes with two) allup...for SURE!!!
Been here all my life!
This always cracks me up...
35 posted on 03/08/2004 9:36:06 PM PST by M0sby (PROUD USMC WIFE!)
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To: stormer
I do geophysical consulting in Washington. I have used ground penetrating radar to locate buried trees from the last debris flow off the mountain. The buried trees are tough to get through as they excavate utility trenches for all the new subdivisions going up in the valley! I think they're nuts! (I get spooked just spending a day up there!)
36 posted on 03/08/2004 9:49:34 PM PST by geopyg (Democracy, whiskey, sexy)
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To: CyberCowboy777
That sounds like a great idea cowboy. But the link doesn't work. Can you try to get it working or just type in the adress. Thanks a ton!
37 posted on 03/09/2004 8:04:15 AM PST by bigmike2000
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