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The Facts Show 2.4 Million Jobs Created Under Bush
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Posted on 03/06/2004 11:14:49 PM PST by MaineVoter2002

The Facts Show 2.4 Million Jobs Created Under Bush

The media and Democrats keep repeating it over and over: "2.3 million jobs lost" since President Bush took office. His could be the worst job record since before World War II, they claim. One little problem: It's not true.

Not only has there been no net loss of jobs during the Bush administration, there has been a net gain, even with the devastation of 9/11. At least 2.4 million jobs have been created since the president took office, 2 million of those in 2003. The gains more than offset the losses.

While Democrats continue to beat their election-year drums about outsourcing, manufacturing losses, unemployment and slow growth in employment, America's economy has been steadily creating jobs.

At least 366,000 jobs have been created in the last five months, over 100,000 of those in January, White House press secretary Scott McClellan has noted. And though the eight-month recession "officially" ended in November, economic indicators are surprising economists and pointing toward a take-off in the recovery.

The signs:

The 5.6 percent unemployment rate is the lowest in two years and below the average of the 1980s (7.3 percent) and '90s (5.8 percent), and still continues to drop.

The nation's economic output revealed the strongest quarterly growth in 20 years. The data for the fourth quarter of 2003 show that the civilian labor force rose by 333,000, while the number of unemployed in the labor force dropped by 575,000. Even better, the number of so-called discouraged workers declined in December.

Consumer spending grew between 4 percent and 5 percent last year, and real hourly earnings rose 1.5 percent. Real earnings have risen over the last three years.

Exports doubled to 19 percent in the fourth quarter, compared to less than 9 percent in the third.

The number of American workers is at an all-time high of 138.5 million, a level never before attained in U.S. history.

Jobless claims are 10 percent below the average of the last 25 years and still falling. Hiring indices are up, even in manufacturing. Productivity growth is extremely high.

Now the doomsayers are criticizing the validity of the unemployment rate, which at 5.6 percent does not fit their gloomy story. Faulty Counting The problem is the areas of biggest job growth are usually not even being counted at all.

Though 75 percent of jobs are created by small companies, according to the Small Business Administration, this sector's entrepreneurial activity and the jobs it creates are left out by Washington bean counters when calculating official new job numbers. The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) does its Payroll Survey by phoning businesses to crunch the number of jobs that have been gained or lost. This is where Democrats grabbed onto their lifeline, the 2.3 million figure. Look only at the Payroll Survey, and there has been a gain of only 522,000 jobs since Bush took office.

But here's the rub. The Household Survey is used to determine the unemployment rate and accounts for those who are self-employed, and small emerging businesses that might be overlooked by the Payroll Survey. But the number of U.S. firms isn't static, and the "fixed list" used by the BLS for phoning established businesses does not reflect new entrepreneurial activity.

People are called at home and asked if they have jobs, or if they are in the market for a job. In contrast to the Payroll Survey, the Household Survey shows that 2.4 million jobs have been created so far during Bush's time in office. As Economy.com writer Haseeb Ahmed recently wrote, "something is amiss in the [Payroll] survey."

Credit Where Credit Is Due

That's not all. When doomsayers, and media spoiling for a fight in an election year, laughed at Bush's prediction of 2.6 million new jobs this year, not everyone was scoffing.

Ahmed, Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan and others hardly batted an eye. Greenspan said it was "probably feasible" the economy would reach the Bush administration's forecast of adding 2.6 million jobs this year, provided growth continues and the productivity rate slows to more typically levels.

"I don't think it's 'Fantasyland,'" Greenspan said. "I agree with him," said John Ryding, chief market economist at Bear Stearns. "I think that we will create 2.5 million, possibly more, jobs over the balance of the year."

Ahmed is convinced that "the revision patterns of the early-1990s recovery cycle" will be repeated. A total of 1.4 million job gains were revised upward to 2.9 million in the first 21 months after the end of the last recession, just after Bush Sr. was voted out of office.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/2/25/171833.shtml

If elected, will John Kerry get credit for the jobs created under the Bush administration?

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


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To: Texasforever
Will we continue to see the labor force going down because after the Baby-boomers, the next generation is much smaller?

That might be true if we didn't have back to back to back amnesty for tens of millions of Illegals AND no border control.

The storm is coming


No Border - No Vote
121 posted on 03/07/2004 12:13:59 PM PST by TomasUSMC
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To: GailA
Glad to hear your area is doing well Gail. Yesterday I heard that Ohio isn't doing well and manufacturing figures in prominantly. Not living there, I'm not sure if that is true or not. If it is true, that's unfortunate. It's a state with a lot of electorial votes.
122 posted on 03/07/2004 1:56:58 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: GailA
The payroll survey does not count the surge in self-employment. The household survey has recorded a surge of 650,000 self-employed workers.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Relying on the Household Survey makes us look out of touch with the real situation out there. I lost my job in 2003. I've been looking for full time work ever since. But I didn't want to collect unemployment, and I don't like sitting on my butt, so I've been freelancing. According to the Household Survey, I'm part of this "surge" in self employment.

Yay for me. Except, I'm making less than half of what I made before, I'm spending all kinds of money on health insurance, and I'm still looking for a job.

MANY people are in a similar position. The Household Survey numbers look like a good talking point on the surface, but if you're in a position like me, you know it's baloney.

Oh, and by the way, the Household Survey itself recorded a loss of 265,000 jobs. http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

123 posted on 03/07/2004 2:05:52 PM PST by LandOfLincolnGOP
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To: All
"The Facts Show 2.4 Million Jobs Created Under Bush"

Why is it, if this is true that Marc Racicot is not on FNC right now jumping up and down hammering home this point. We need to get just as emotional as the dems are or we will lose those who are walking the fence when it comes to which way they will vote in November. If this fact is true, HEELLOOOOOOOOO, it takes the "jobs lost under Bush" arguement off the table!!! Let's go, start SCREAMING this from the rooftops.

I keep hearing from the repubs how "well, this is going to be a very close election, blah, blah, blah". It doesn't need to be, eliminate all of these crap arguements that the dems want to keep using!!!
124 posted on 03/07/2004 2:15:18 PM PST by Hand em their arse
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To: DoughtyOne
MS just across the border from Memphis is adding 400-450 new jobs. I posted it of FR the other day. Our arena will be opening up soon and that will add a few more jobs. Workman's Comp is a big issue here like it is elsewhere..it's killing jobs.
125 posted on 03/07/2004 2:26:02 PM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: GailA
Thanks for the additional comments. Workman's comp is killing us out here. We pay three times what other states do, and the recipients receive the same benefits or less. Hopefully Schwarzenegger will attack his issue next, as he said he would.
126 posted on 03/07/2004 2:32:34 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: CyberAnt
It was post #63:

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, there was 135,999,000 people employed in Jan., 2001 (link) and 138,566,000 people employed in Jan., 2004 (link).

127 posted on 03/07/2004 2:43:41 PM PST by Dan Zachary
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To: CyberAnt
I have had people claim that the real complaint is the loss of manufacturing jobs. My reply is that figure began to decline in 1998 (link) and that President Bush inherited the problem.
128 posted on 03/07/2004 2:51:47 PM PST by Dan Zachary
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To: mewferkitty
I don't understand why you posted that to me. I was merely pointing out the facts, not making any suggestions as to a solution.
131 posted on 03/07/2004 3:30:26 PM PST by Dan Zachary
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To: Dan Zachary
Why did moderator remove those posts? Must have been on wrong thread?
132 posted on 03/07/2004 3:44:21 PM PST by Dan Zachary
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To: MaineVoter2002
BUMP!
133 posted on 03/07/2004 3:44:54 PM PST by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: MaineVoter2002
BTTT
134 posted on 03/07/2004 4:07:11 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: Dan Zachary
That's true!
135 posted on 03/07/2004 4:42:29 PM PST by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: SandRat
Bump!
136 posted on 03/07/2004 5:09:22 PM PST by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: MaineVoter2002
Is this true?
137 posted on 03/07/2004 6:22:15 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: MissAmericanPie
ROFLOL, yeah, he grew government to the point that most of that job creation was new government jobs.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics:

Within government, state government added 20,000 jobs in February, largely in state education. link

How did President Bush make the state governments increase their education employees?

138 posted on 03/07/2004 6:34:44 PM PST by Dan Zachary
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To: rwfromkansas
Is this true?

See my post #127.

139 posted on 03/07/2004 6:36:21 PM PST by Dan Zachary
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To: MaineVoter2002
CLINTON ECONOMY VS. BUSH ECONOMY

During Clinton's "Great Economy" back in 1996:
Unemployment was at 5.6%
Average wage was $11.82/hr.
Inflation was 3.3%

During George W. Bush's "miserable failure" economy of 2004:
Unemployment is at 5.6%
Average wage is $15.40/hr.
Inflation is 1.9%

So 5.6% unemployment is lousy today, because a Republican is in the White House? Funny, back in 1996, CNN said that 5.6% unemployment was LOW! Amazing how the spin changes, depending on who is in power.

The Dems, paleo-protectionists and the lamestream media don't want us to see the true picture, and realize that the Bush economy is pretty good, all things (terrorist attacks, war, etc.) considered.

Find out the rest, in CNN's own words, at this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1087145/posts
140 posted on 03/07/2004 7:55:15 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (Con Presidente Bush, vamos por buen camino.)
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