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NASA: "A Chilling Possibility" Global Warming Could cause Deep Freeze!
NASA ^ | 3/5/04 | NASA

Posted on 03/05/2004 12:53:24 PM PST by Mark Felton

March 5, 2004:  Global warming could plunge North America and Western Europe into a deep freeze, possibly within only a few decades.

That's the paradoxical scenario gaining credibility among many climate scientists. The thawing of sea ice covering the Arctic could disturb or even halt large currents in the Atlantic Ocean. Without the vast heat that these ocean currents deliver--comparable to the power generation of a million nuclear power plants--Europe's average temperature would likely drop 5 to 10°C (9 to 18°F), and parts of eastern North America would be chilled somewhat less. Such a dip in temperature would be similar to global average temperatures toward the end of the last ice age roughly 20,000 years ago.

see captionRight: Retreating Arctic ice, 1979-2003, based on data collected by the Defense Meteorological Satellite Program (DMSP) Special Sensor Microwave Imager (SSMI). [More]

Some scientists believe this shift in ocean currents could come surprisingly soon--within as little as 20 years, according to Robert Gagosian, president and director of the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution. Others doubt it will happen at all. Even so, the Pentagon is taking notice. Andrew Marshall, a veteran Defense Department planner, recently released an unclassified report detailing how a shift in ocean currents in the near future could compromise national security.

"It's difficult to predict what will happen," cautions Donald Cavalieri, a senior scientist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, "because the Arctic and North Atlantic are very complex systems with many interactions between the land, the sea, and the atmosphere. But the facts do suggest that the changes we're seeing in the Arctic could potentially affect currents that warm Western Europe, and that's gotten a lot of people concerned."

Ice is Key


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There are several satellites keeping an all-weather watch on ice cover in the Arctic. NASA's Aqua satellite, for instance, carries a Japanese-built sensor called the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer-EOS ("AMSR-E" for short). Using microwaves, rather than visible light, AMSR-E can penetrate clouds and offer uninterrupted surveillance of the ice, even at night, explains Roy Spencer, the instrument's principal investigator at the Global Hydrology and Climate Center in Huntsville, Alabama. Other ice-watching satellites, operated by NASA, NOAA and the Dept. of Defense, use similar technology.

The view from orbit clearly shows a long-term decline in the "perennial" Arctic sea ice (the part that remains frozen during the warm summer months). According to a 2002 paper by Josefino Comiso, a climate scientist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, this year-round ice has been retreating since the beginning of the satellite record in 1978 at an average rate of 9% per decade. Studies looking at more recent data peg the rate at 14% per decade, suggesting that the decline of Arctic sea ice is accelerating.

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Above: A global ocean circulation between deep, colder water and warmer, surface water strongly influences regional climates around the world. Image courtesy Argonne National Laboratory. [More]

Some scientists worry that melting Arctic sea ice will dump enough freshwater into the North Atlantic to interfere with sea currents. Some freshwater would come from the ice-melt itself, but the main contributor would be increased rain and snow in the region. Retreating ice cover exposes more of the ocean surface, allowing more moisture to evaporate into the atmosphere and leading to more precipitation.

Because saltwater is denser and heavier than freshwater, this "freshening" of the North Atlantic would make the surface layers more buoyant. That's a problem because the surface water needs to sink to drive a primary ocean circulation pattern known as the "Great Ocean Conveyor." Sunken water flows south along the ocean floor toward the equator, while warm surface waters from tropical latitudes flow north to replace the water that sank, thus keeping the Conveyor slowly chugging along. An increase in freshwater could prevent this sinking of North Atlantic surface waters, slowing or stopping this circulation.

see captionAMSR-E is collecting new data that will help scientists evaluate this possibility. For one thing, it provides greatly improved ground resolution over previous all-weather sensors. AMSR-E images reveal smaller cracks and fissures in the ice as it breaks up in the spring. This detail allows scientists to better understand the dynamics of ice break-up, says Cavalieri, a member of the AMSR-E team.

Right: Sea ice disintegrating off the coast of Greenland on March 15, 2003, as seen by the older Defense Meteorological Satellite Program SSMI sensor (14 km resolution) and the newer AMSR-E (~5 km resolution). Smaller cracks not visible in the left image show up clearly in the right one.

"Other important pieces of the puzzle, like rainfall, sea-surface temperatures, and oceanic winds, are also detected by AMSR-E. Looking at those variables together should help scientists assess the likelihood of a change in the Atlantic currents," adds Spencer.

Deja Vu?

Once considered incredible, the notion that climate can change rapidly is becoming respectable. In a 2003 report, Robert Gagosian cites "rapidly advancing evidence [from, e.g., tree rings and ice cores] that Earth's climate has shifted abruptly and dramatically in the past." For example, as the world warmed at the end of the last ice age about 13,000 years ago, melting ice sheets appear to have triggered a sudden halt in the Conveyor, throwing the world back into a 1,300 year period of ice-age-like conditions called the "Younger Dryas."

Will it happen again? Researchers are scrambling to find out.

see captionOn Feb. 13, an expedition set sail from Great Britain to place current-monitoring sensors in the Atlantic Ocean that will check the Gulf Stream for signs of slowing. The voyage is the latest step in a joint US / UK research project called Rapid Climate Change, which began in 2001. Another international project, called SEARCH (Study of Environmental Arctic CHange), kicked off in 2001 with the goal of more carefully assessing changes in Arctic sea ice thickness.

Above: The RRS Discovery, on a voyage to measure currents in the Atlantic Ocean. [More]

Much depends on how fast the warming of the Arctic occurs, according to computer simulations by Thomas F. Stocker and Andreas Schmittner of the University of Bern. In their models, a faster warming could shut down the major Atlantic current completely, while a slower warming might only slow the current for a few centuries.

And, inevitably, the discussion turns to people. Does human industry play a major role in warming the Arctic? Could we reverse the trend, if we wanted to? Not all scientists agree. Some argue that the changes occuring in the Arctic are consistent with large, slow natural cycles in ocean behavior that are known to science. Others see a greater human component.

"The sea ice thawing is consistent with the warming we've seen in the last century," notes Spencer, but "we don't know how much of that warming is a natural climate fluctuation and what portion is due to manmade greenhouse gases." If the Great Conveyor Belt suddenly stops, the cause might not matter. Europeans will have other things on their minds--like how to grow crops in snow. Now is the time to find out, while it's merely a chilling possibility.


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KEYWORDS: climatechange; prozacchewables; whateverwesayitmeans
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To: Mark Felton
And these are the people that we are trusting with tons of money and our future in space.
41 posted on 03/05/2004 1:20:27 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (All the good taglines are taken.)
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To: Mark Felton
Maybe this would cut down our Texas mosquito population.
42 posted on 03/05/2004 1:21:18 PM PST by pax_et_bonum (Always finish what you st)
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To: Mark Felton
Some scientists believe

I thought science was about proving hypotheses by demonstrating experimental repeatability leading to defining known facts. How about the leftist scientists leave belief to the pious.

43 posted on 03/05/2004 1:24:07 PM PST by anymouse
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To: Mark Felton
Such a dip in temperature would be similar to global average temperatures toward the end of the last ice age roughly 20,000 years ago.

See how many rich Europeans are buying up large tracts of land in Africa to get in on the ground floor of the mass migration of Europe to warmer climes.

As for me, I'll invest in energy and use my profits to buy an island in the Carribean.

44 posted on 03/05/2004 1:25:57 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I don't believe anything a Democrat says. Bill Clinton set the standard!)
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To: oyez
If Algore were elected in 2000 we wouldn't be reading this pap.

Oh I think we would. There were such articles, or their predecessors, which appeared while Slick was Slimebag in Chief. I think this article is pretty even handed, leaving open the question of the cause of the current warming, in fact even leaining a bit away from human causes.

The earth has done it before. The historical records shows several periods of gradual warming, followed by "instant birdseye" (very rapid cooling).

45 posted on 03/05/2004 1:26:59 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Mark Felton
We're dooooomed!
46 posted on 03/05/2004 1:28:02 PM PST by theDentist (Boston: So much Liberty, you can buy a Politician already owned by someone else.)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
Would that help ? Homo sapiens has never experienced an ice age.
47 posted on 03/05/2004 1:28:15 PM PST by Truth666
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To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!!
48 posted on 03/05/2004 1:32:17 PM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Truth666
Would that help ? Homo sapiens has never experienced an ice age.

Homo sapiens have been around for about 75,000 years.

It was probably the recent ice ages that weeded out Neanderthals from the Cro-Magnon breed from which we descended.

49 posted on 03/05/2004 1:35:45 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I don't believe anything a Democrat says. Bill Clinton set the standard!)
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To: theDentist
Well, as long as we're all doomed...

... we might as well have a few cold ones!

50 posted on 03/05/2004 1:37:28 PM PST by theDentist (Boston: So much Liberty, you can buy a Politician already owned by someone else.)
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To: Mark Felton
All of this stuff is part and parcel of a movie promo:
http://www.thedayaftertomorrow.com/index.php

Have no fear, this will be a part of the Democrats game plan after the movie comes out. Free press for Kerry and other Demo-candidates.
51 posted on 03/05/2004 1:41:29 PM PST by Outlaw76 (Citizens on the Bounce!)
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To: Mark Felton
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Ahhh yes, a cruise paid for with someone elses money. That's the good life.

52 posted on 03/05/2004 1:42:43 PM PST by aught-6
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To: Mark Felton
What I really want to know, is it going to rain next week?
53 posted on 03/05/2004 1:44:19 PM PST by stevio
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To: Truth666

Homo sapiens has never experienced an ice age.

The last Ice Age ended about 11,500 years ago. There was also a Little Ice Age 1300-1850 AD.

From Felix: "Global warming is a myth. Most of the things we see happening to our weather lately have nothing to do with global warming. They’re part of a natural cycle. The fact is that ice ages recur in a dependable, predictable cycle that’s about to repeat itself. The next ice age could begin in our lifetimes."

The cycle was discovered in the 1970s by a group called CLIMAP (Climate Long- Range Investigation, Mapping, and Prediction). They looked at deep sea cores for the past 500,000 years. During the last half million years, they found, ice ages have begun or ended, abruptly, just like clockwork, about every 11,500 years.

Q. I almost hate to ask this, but when did the last ice age end?

A. That’s the problem. The last ice age ended almost exactly 11,500 years ago. Which means that the next ice age could—no, I say should— begin any day.

54 posted on 03/05/2004 1:44:33 PM PST by kabar
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To: Truth666
Check this site out - http://www.iceagenow.com/
55 posted on 03/05/2004 1:45:36 PM PST by Digger
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To: Mark Felton
Well, the price of caves and furs just went up !
56 posted on 03/05/2004 1:51:52 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: farmfriend
ping
57 posted on 03/05/2004 1:51:52 PM PST by presidio9 (FREE MARTHA)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Buy Florida real estate now before the new ice age drives up prices!!
58 posted on 03/05/2004 1:54:11 PM PST by corkoman (Logged in - have you?)
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To: Truth666
The last glaciation of North America ended 10,000 years ago. IIRC the Hudson Bay area is actually rising as the land recovers from the weight of the ice packs.
59 posted on 03/05/2004 1:58:48 PM PST by ahayes
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To: kabar
And this is probably the case. And scientists are beginning to see the effects. The problem is they are seeing it through "global-warming" lenses, and must therefore automatically attribute climatic change to their pet theory. The change is actually happening, just not for the reasons stated.


Got insulation?
60 posted on 03/05/2004 2:01:47 PM PST by Little Pig
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