Victim's Families Press Bush to Pull 9/11 Ads (a.k.a War Protestor pops up again)

Yahoo ^ | 3/5/04 | Mark Egan

[veronica]

The latest anti-Bush volleys came at a news conference held by September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows.

The leftwing nutter crowd. SHAME ON THEM!

[Wombat101]

I have several issues with some of the things said in this report (and others)by the relatives of the 9/11 dead. I think there are some people (understandably) that are letting their grief do their thinking for them.

The brouhaha is over the use of 9/11 as a campaign war cry and the apparent lack of taste such use implies. This, I remind you, comes from people who have forgotten the other 9 million people in this city and would love to see "Ground Zero" turned into a Disneyland of grief with a 19 acre memorial. Talk about poor taste?

There are some of us, like ,myself, that were fortunate and were not injured, nor did we lose family and friends, but who are also scarred by the events of 9/11. While we understand the need to remember, we also do not see the need to keep prime commercial real-estate vacant. We need jobs, the City needs money and business needs a place to conduct business if this City is to recover and survive. Your grief and bitterness do not entitle you to keep the rest of us hostage to your whims, and some of you should stop wearing 9/11 as a badge entitling you to dictate the course of events. We have an elected government for that and people with investment capital to spend to help it along.

In that regard, some of the things said in these articles rub me the wrong way. Especially the remarks about Bush having the nerve to refer to 9/11 when it occured on his watch.

True, Bush was in the White House and granted, the intelligence services and law enforcement failed us on that day. However, I remind you that Bill Clinton was offered Osama's head three seperate times and refused, presumably because he was too busy screwing the hired help. We must also take into account that Al Gore's tantrum in November 2000-January 2001 prevented Bush from getting his team in place, possibly in time to do something, anything, about 9/11 before it occured. That, of course, is pure conjecture on my part. This does not obsolve Bush and Co of all responsibility for someone being asleep at the wheel, but it does mitigate the circumstances somewhat. I can guarentee you that had Al Gore been in the White House, we'd still be having our giant Oprah-moment and not fighting back.

Does the use of 9/11 as a campaign issue smack of poor taste? Debatable, in my opinion. I can tell you that any politician worth his salt would use 9/11 in some form to make his case for either keeping his job or of replacing the encumbant. Democrats, of course, would use it emotionally, Republicans tend to think of it as being used logically. Regardless, someone would have used it.

However, Bush is actually doing something about 9/11 and when viewed in that light, I don't see the problem. We've scattered the Taliban, removed a dangerous regime in Baghdad and gotten the Libyans to play ball. We've idenitifed (finally) our enemies as such, and we're working towards solutions. Those solutions may not be to everyone's tastes, but they are still better options than launching cruise missiles at aspirin factories, which was the previous administration's modus operandi.

The only way to prevent more 9/11's is to exercise American power, something that has been out of fashion for the last 30 years or so. I'm not talking about bombing the rest of the world flat (although some places deserve it), but using American power and influence to change things for the better. Have a disgusting dictator who threatens the world with WMD's and the support of terrorism? Invade his country and eliminate him. Got a madman in the mountains of Afghanistan with a God complex and a sh*tload of money? Kill or capture him before he becomes Dr. No.

It just makes sense.

I personally do not see any problem with Bush using 9/11 as a politial issue when you consider that his potential opponents would rather have American policy and defense subordinated to the United Nations or France. Espcially when the opposition's solution revolves around pap psychology and flawed theories/beliefs about the efficacy of international law.

We are committed to a course of action now, for better or for worse, and to continue on the present course makes more sense than to have gone this far only to pull up stakes and pack the tent away, which is what John Kerry would do. Unfortunately, there are some people out there who still don't get it and they need reminders in any way, shape or form they can get them, because the average attention span is measured in MPH. If a Bush commercial depicts the events of 9/11, so much the better, because a picture is worth a thousand words. Sometimes you have to shock and outrage to get your message across. The message is that we are in a life and death struglle with pathological killers who aren't particularly picky about their targets.

[Nickname]

Peaceful Tomorrows would also appear to be a favorite of Rex Foundation.

According to Rex Foundation's web site, in 2002 they gave $12,500 in grants to September 11 Families for a Peaceful Tomorrow. http://www.rexfoundation.org/rexgrants2.html

According to ActivistCash.com, Rex Foundation's top grantees include Greenpeace, Tides Foundation & Tides Center, and Ruckus Society.

[kdmhcdcfld]

I have no recollection of any, but did Bubba's campaign use any images of Oklahoma City when he ran for re-election in '96?

[quantim]

How's this?

[dighton]

The 'Offended' 911 Group “Peaceful Tomorrows” is funded largely by Teresa Heinz

[GailA]

MUCH, MUCH BETTER

[GailA]

I'd like to remind these peace nics that hanoi john is ANTI-Death Penalty....last year he was against it for terrorist...this year because he's running for the WH, he's for it...BUT if you are the murder victim of a non-terrorist You won't see the DP used as punishment for the murder of your Loved One.

hanoi john has flipped flopped on every issue of importance, last year he was against the death penalty for terrorist who kill Americans. Now he's for it.

One thing he had been steadfast on is his stance on the death penalty. He says he supports a moratorium on the death penalty at the federal level. Which means there would soon be a national moratorium on the death penalty, because of the liberal social engineering judges and Supreme Court Justices he'd appoint.

He is OPPOSED to the death penalty for non-terrorist who would murder an American child, even a 5-year-old.

As the mother of a murdered 16 year old son, Jeremy Peter Flachbart, who was brutally murdered by a sociopath wanting to see what it felt like to kill, I am alarmed and APPALLED by this man who would be our president soft attitude toward crime, who would eliminate a form of punishment for a horrific crime.

He says HE FEELS MY PAIN.

Horse Feathers! he can't feel my pain, he hasn't had a child brutally murdered. He only was a junior prosecutor from 1976-78. He didn't loose a Loved One to homicide.

There is a hole in my heart and in my life created by the brutal murder of my beloved child.

To me he is soft on crime just as Mike Dukakis who furloughed that brutal killer Willie Horton was.

Presumptive Democratic Presidential nominee Kerry was irresponsible in blindly accepting the fraudulent claim that 111 innocents have been released from death row. As has been repeatedly proven, this innocent claim is a fraud pushed by the anti death penalty movement.

This does not speak well to his ability to be responsible on major policy issues.

"Kerry say 111 were found innocent from death row via DNA. If so, that is even more absurd. It is 12." But, for solid evidence of actual innocence, my evidence and that from others indicates its from 17-30. I use 30 to be on the safe side." Dudley Sharp, Resource Director with Justice For All 713-935-9300.

Sincerely,

In memory of Jeremy Peter Flachbart

Gail Keasling

KING: I've done a lot of shows recently dealing with the death of little children. A person who kills a 5-year-old should live?

KERRY: Larry, my instinct is to want to strangle that person with my own hands. I understand the instincts, I really do. I prosecuted people. I know what the feeling of the families is and everybody else.

But we have 111 people who have been now released from death row -- death row, let alone the rest of the prison system -- because of DNA evidence that showed they didn't commit the crime of which they were convicted.

After spending -- I myself worked to get a person out of jail who had been there for 15 years for a murder that person did not commit.

Now, our system has made mistakes, and it's been applied in a way that I think is wrong.

Secondly, I don't believe that, in the end, you advance the, sort of, level of your justice and the system of your civility as a nation -- and many other nations in the world, most of the other nations in the world, have adopted that idea, that the state should not engage in killing.

(APPLAUSE)

Because they have very bad memories of what happens when the state engages in killing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10722-2004Feb26_2.html

[ladyinred]

Don't do it President Bush!!!! I am just so disgusted by this obvious left wing socialists ploy!!!!! They ought to be ashamed!

[Constitution Day]

BTTT

[jmstein7]

FReeper 9/11 Memoriam Ad: Remember (Download Here)

[cynicom]

Ask those "victims" if any of them took the money offered after 9/11.

[cynicom]

Ask those "victims" if any of them took the money offered after 9/11.

[Timeout]

I did some research on these 9/11 family members.

Bush 9/11 ads: Who are these angry 9/11 victims?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1091695/posts?page=1

Check it out. Add any info you have....like: who are the women who've been appearing on TV complaining about the ads? I don't have their names.