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Report: White House to back off of border control plan
CNN ^ | 3-4-04 | AP

Posted on 03/04/2004 11:51:44 PM PST by JustPiper

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:03:58 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Bush administration backed off plans to require that millions of visa-carrying Mexicans who make short visits to America and stay close to the border be fingerprinted and photographed to get into the country.

Asa Hutchinson, the Homeland Security department's undersecretary for border and transportation, was to publicly announce the policy change at a Capitol Hill hearing Thursday, a congressional official who was briefed on the plan told The Associated Press.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; asahutchinson; borders; bush; dhsillegals; gop; immigration; security; usvisit; vicentefox
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To: hedgetrimmer
Man, is that the tail wagging the dog, or what?

Fox will probably run for Governor of California next. President after that, if the RINOs get their way.

101 posted on 03/05/2004 5:04:14 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: Prodigal Son
"Yeah, I guess I'm just f__ked up. I'm just stupid."

I've slept on it and I've decided that yes, I do indeed totally agree with your self-assessment.

It really must have something to do with your running around in a kilt all day.

For God's sake man, put some pants on, already. ;^)

102 posted on 03/05/2004 11:38:26 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: Pa' fuera; Don Joe
Oops, very sorry about that last mess-up/ping.

*This* is the article I thought I'd pass on.
103 posted on 03/06/2004 12:50:49 AM PST by k2blader (Some folks should worry less about how conservatives vote and more about how to advance conservatism)
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To: CyberAnt
Well .. we don't require it of Canada, why should we require it of Mexico.

Um, one of these things is not like the other.

104 posted on 03/06/2004 7:42:23 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: JustPiper
I caught part of the subcommittee on funds for DHS today and heard Ridge testifying, what a buffoon! You cannot help this problem throwing more money at it! One Republican Congressman confronted Ridge with why certain programs were cut, funds cut off and why when they try t o get info on it, they are just getting the runaround! Check out the transcript if you can get it Yonif, Ridge is appalling!

Ridge does not strike me as being the brightest bulb in the drawer. I keep trying to "think positive thoughts", but I can't help but think that he was hired for some reason other than his abilities.

105 posted on 03/06/2004 7:47:51 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: JustPiper
If we are attacked with a dirty bomb why on earth does Germany get the contract?!

Because it would be good for Germany. It would help their economy. Isn't that why we're here? To help every other country in the world (except our own)?

106 posted on 03/06/2004 7:50:50 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: yonif
Note that Senor Fox made certain to hold his glass a couple of inches higher than Arbusto held his. And, he's looking down on Arbusto.

Meaningless? No, I don't think so. Not when the cultural considerations are taken into account. Definite message there, IMO -- to his constituents.

107 posted on 03/06/2004 7:56:42 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: CalifornianConservative
I thought this article was going to be about President Bush finally hearing what his followers have to say on this issue.

Well, he did hear them. What his followers have to say on this issue -- as on all issues -- is pretty clear: Do as thou wilt.

Now, as to his base... ah, but we've been informed that his base doesn't matter. He doesn't need the base.

I guess that explains it.

108 posted on 03/06/2004 7:59:23 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: JustPiper
Mexico lobbies for alien amnesty

But... but... but... but, I thought it's not an "amnesty"?

Color me confused! But loyal, yes loyal!

109 posted on 03/06/2004 8:00:32 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
INS used to stand for immigration and naturalization service...
now it stands for "invasion normalization strategery."

You just need to keep things in perspective, otherwise it'll drive you insane.

The Mexican illegals, just like the Islamists, are only here to do the jobs that no American is willing to do.

See? It all makes sense when you put it in perspective!

110 posted on 03/06/2004 8:02:29 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: JustPiper
Screw Vicente Fox..... get the photos, prints, and post the Marines along the border!
111 posted on 03/06/2004 8:12:35 AM PST by pointsal
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To: 4Freedom
Goodnight to you and your fellow Scottish globalists.

Hey, I'm as American as you. Maybe more.

Also, I'm not a globalist. But only someone very stupid or naive doesn't understand that once freedom is dead in America, it is dead everywhere.

You're voting to kill our nation by voting for Kerry. And once our nation is dead, the world will be dead with it. This is what I was talking about and you know it. Play dumb if you want.

You're voting to put an enemy of our country in office.

112 posted on 03/06/2004 8:39:40 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: 4Freedom
Oh, that's right, you want to choose the U.S. President from among the globe's entire population.

An outright lie.

113 posted on 03/06/2004 8:40:36 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: 4Freedom
It really must have something to do with your running around in a kilt all day.

I've never worn a kilt. What the hell are you blabbering about here?

114 posted on 03/06/2004 8:41:37 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: FITZ
I think Fox wants you speaking Spanish --- it's unfair for the citizens of Mexico moving here that they don't understand everything. Clinton already made it a requirement that all welfare office workers speak Spanish for the immigrants coming to get on welfare.

Well, I've been thinking about that, and I've decided that it would be prudent to learn Spanish.

No, not to speak the language, just to understand it.

I've got a feeling that might turn out to be a very valuable skill in the coming years. Especially if you can not let it be known that you understand it.

115 posted on 03/06/2004 8:58:49 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: JustPiper
We can take action of our own accord.

http://www.ki4u.com

- or - you can go with "Plan B" found on the same website:

http://www.ki4u.com/Plan_B.htm


March 6, 2004 - Saturday Last Updated: December 21st, 2003


Plan "B" for anyone caught without KI or KIO3 tablets in a nuclear emergency...

Few realize that there are viable alternatives to achieve a thyroid-blocking dose of iodine in a nuclear emergency when KI or KIO3 tablets are in short supply or not available in the locale where needed. (Also, to date, there currently aren't enough tablets that have been produced nationally, yet, to protect even 4% of the population!) The following should be of interest to everyone, even those who have already secured a personal family supply of KI or KIO3 tablets, as these Plan "B" alternatives can be shared far and wide with extended family, friends, neighbors and your community-at-large.

Especially vital, too, to get this information out to your local doctors, pharmacists, community leaders AND Congressional Representatives! These two following alternatives could protect many thousands more than all the KI and KIO3 tablets currently available anywhere.

#1 - Anyone can buy, without restriction, Potassium Iodide USP at a local chemical supply house (and even some larger photo supply outlets, but make sure it's "USP Grade") and readily mix up their own Potassium Iodide (KI) solution that is every bit as effective as the tablets. Also, we were recently reminded by a science teacher, that every town in America likely has a ready and waiting supply of KI sitting in their high school science labs that could protect hundreds of their students and local residents! A single 500 gram bottle of KI (USP, reagent, or chromatographic grade), now already on many of their shelves, could provide 3,846 adult daily doses or 7,692 child (age 3-12) thyroid-blocking doses!

Also, Stanley L. Rapaport, M.D. recently shared with me (2/15/03) that he has been trying to point this out to the Surgeon General, Homeland Security, and Armed Forces Surgeon Generals. If the government bought KI in bulk, which then is not very expensive and would work out to about .01 cents per child dose, an easy distribution program could be at the ready in every community in the nation! As Dr. Rapaport explains;

"Bulk purchases must be repackaged from 100# to appropriate sized packages depending on city size and proposed stockpile locations. There are 3492 adult doses per pound or 6984 children’s doses per pound.
Stored in appropriate location viz. pharmacies, fire or police stations.

Made up into a solution of 130mg per 5cc. (1 pound of Potassium Iodide to 17.5 liters of water) gives a solution where one teaspoonful equals one adult dose, ½ teaspoonful equals a children’s dose and so forth as per schedule below.

Dispensed from appropriate sites including the hospital , parking lots, drive bys, etc. in any container as is very stable. Paper cups, drink bottles, with dosage directions.

Taken for ten days (even one dose is markedly effective) or as directed via appropriate authorities. Solution is somewhat unpleasant and can be masked by honey, syrup, soft drink, additional water, etc.

The solution as made up is equal to 130mg per 5cc (1 teaspoonful)
Adult dose is 1 teaspoonful
Ages 3-18 ½ teaspoonful
Ages 1 month to 3 years ¼ teaspoonful
Age 1 month or less 1/8 teaspoonful"

As Dr. Rapaport details above, this is all too easy to have in-place and ready to go, and rightly deserves serious consideration by our government officials tasked with safeguarding public health at all levels; federal, state, and municipal.

Most locales needing it will have enough time to do a quick drive-through ad-hoc set-up dispensing of it because radioactive iodine is dangerous for over 500 km (310 miles), as Chernobyl proved, and it would take time for the wind to carry it into many communities well downwind of ground zero. There would be enough time to save many, IF powdered KI had been pre-positioned! Right now, there have not been enough KI tablets produced in all the country to cover even 4% of the population, and the KI powder, IF pre-positioned in every community with a simple set of instructions, would fill this void and potentially save 10's of thousands of America's children from future thyroid cancer.

This is clearly a legitimate Federal Government public health responsibility, as radioactive fallout travelling on the wind will not respect state borders. The Federal Govt has the opportunity here to be seen as heros to have addressed this issue in advance, or risk being condemned as derelict in their duties if they had failed to, when the need arises. (Most all other developed nations in the world had acquired emergency stocks of KI after Chernobyl.) Currently the total Federal Government stockpile consists of 1 million doses held by the CDC and another 600,000 doses (half of which we sold them) held by the Office of Emergency Preparedness. That's only enough for 1.6 million people, for ONE day, and then it's all gone!

In the meantime, we are also stockpiling here at KI4U, Inc., besides millions of the KI tablets, an emergency reserve of over 2,000 pounds of USP grade KI, same as what goes into the KI tablets, enough for over 7 million adult doses or over 14 million child doses. This reserve is exclusively for rush shipping to government agencies (federal, state, municipal) if/when they find themselves being faced with a nuclear emergency. Hopefully, they'll each get their own stockpiles well in advance, but just-in-case they don't in time, we'll do what we can to help. We also have some additional 100# drums of USP grade Potassium Iodide (KI) available and set aside for purchase by anyone or any group right now, before an emergency. Contact: Shane Connor for pricing & shipping.

On the local level, community leaders need to pull together their resourceful science teachers, local pharmacists and doctors to fully explore the resources already at hand and available for any future nuclear emergency that might befall their locale. You might could be responsible for saving many in your community from future thyroid cancer by simply bringing this to the attention of these local authorities and experts!

There are two kinds of Potassium Iodide (KI) solutions that can be made. Saturated and anything less than saturated, and both of these two simple formulas and dosing recommendations, along with more details, are at the www.ki4u.com Potassium Iodide Anti-Radiation Pill FAQ at the Q&A section entitled: How Do You Make a Potassium Iodide (KI) Solution?

#2 - EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE TOLD: It is poisonous to ingest (drink/swallow) elemental iodine, iodine tablets (widely sold for water purification), tincture of iodine, or Povidone-iodine solutions (like the Betadine® brand solution). They are all both ineffective for thyroid-blocking and very dangerous, perhaps even fatal to have a child drink any of them.

However, there has been some interesting research, though, with both humans and dogs into topically (on the skin) applied Povidone-Iodine (10%) solution (such as Betadine® or Povidex® solutions), and also with tincture of iodine, to test the absorption rates of iodine directly, and safely, through the skin.

According to research by Health Physicist Ken Miller, Hershey Medical Center, using 24 healthy adult male subjects, an adult could get a blocking dose of stable iodine by painting 8 ml of a 2 percent tincture of Iodine on the abdomen or forearm approximately 2 hours prior to I-131 contamination. The abstract of his study titled "Effectiveness of Skin Absorption of Tincture of I in Blocking Radioiodine from the Human Thyroid Gland" from Health Physics, June 1989, Vol. 56, No. 6, pages 911-914, states:

"Although there were large variations within each subject group in regard to serum-I levels and thyroid uptakes, the increase in serum-I concentration after topical-I application was effective in reducing the thyroid uptake of I131. The authors conclude that in the absence of KI, most humans would benefit from topical application of tincture of-I, and that in some the effectiveness would equal that of oral KI."
More details (and links to this research) on these topical applications (readily available at your local pharmacy) can be found at the www.ki4u.com Potassium Iodide Anti-Radiation Pill FAQ at the Q&A section entitled: Is Iodized Salt, Tincture of Iodine, Water Purification Tabs, or other Iodine Sources Effective?

Again, here too, you might could be responsible for saving many in your community from future thyroid cancer by simply bringing this research to the attention of your friends, neighbors, relatives, local officials, pharmacists and doctors!






Remember, too, as often mentioned on the FAQ, touch bases with your personal physician now to assure that there isn't any reason you, or your children, shouldn't take KI or KIO3 in a future nuclear emergency. (An iodine allergy is the usual disqualifying condition, if any, but only your doctor knows your full medical history and current medications to make that determination.) Asking them now, before any emergency would likely make that impossible to do so, is just another part of your prudent preparations here.



116 posted on 03/06/2004 10:32:40 AM PST by Sean Osborne Lomax (http://www.HomelandSecurityUS.com)
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